MLB 2008 Season

[Deisler]

14-9 Yankees-Angels.....Bronx Zoo......Texeira grand slam....X marks the spot with SIX RBIs.....what a thoroughly enjoyable ball game!!!

I was pissed at Edwar Ramirez when he allowed Texeira to hit. All 3 base runners he allowed were below .250 hitters and you let a dangerous hitter like Mark come to the plate? That was retarded. Thank God the Angels decided to commit errors and we blew the game wide open.

 

[twigsanberries]

Manny Ramirez has done more for the Dodgers in the last 3 days than Andruw Jones has done all year. Manny struck out today and the crowd still cheered for him. Hopefully he helps us past Arizona for the division, maybe today was a sign of things to come the rest of the way.

don't worry. he'll throw a ****fit sooner or later and implode the locker room. if people like varitek and yukolis don't want him on their team, it speaks wonders about his character and dedication.

 

[ManU2000]

I don't think he will for the simple fact that he knows how he finishes this season will have an impact as to how much he gets offered this offseason. He'll be on his best behavior.

 

[Chacarita Juniors]

So were only better than the Nats and the Mariners, fnck man I though that we'd at least be a .500 team. I guess at least we're getting a high draft pick in the draft but it still doesn't matter because all our 1st rounders have been absolute crap (Matt Bush).

Another Padres season down the drain...our owner is a cheap bastard.

 

[Deisler]

I really hope you guys decide to trade the Jake and we go after him and CC. Imagine a rotation like this:

CC Sabathia
Jake Peavy
Joba Chamberlain
Chien Mien Wang
Pettite/Mussina/Hughes/other

Dynamite i tell ya, dynamite.

There are rumors Manny wants to be our DH next year as well.

 

[newbie original]

Yup, that's right. Less than a week ago he told some of his friends that he wants to sign with the Yankees next year JUST so he can get back at his old team.

 

[Chacarita Juniors]

Keep dreamin' Diesler, Jake will be a Padre for the rest of his life.

I hope we keep up our terrible play, we have a good chance at drafting SDSU's fenom pitcher Stephen Strasburg. Signing him would be a different story but one can only dream, can't we.

 

[newbie original]

C.C. with 130 pitches...........that's right 130 pitches. He's turned the screw since leaving Ohio for Wisconsin.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

C.C. with 130 pitches...........that's right 130 pitches. He's turned the screw since leaving Ohio for Wisconsin.

Yeah he did.

 

[Deisler]

He ain't staying in Wisconsin.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I don't care. We're going to ride that arm with 150 pitches per game to the World Series.

 

[Avalanche]

I don't care. We're going to ride that arm with 150 pitches per game to the World Series.

Unless the Mets bullpen somehow summons up enough courage to not blow 10 run leads. Because of this fatal flaw, I'm already not looking forward to this year's September collapse.

As for CC, Deisler's probably right. There's no way he'll re-up with the Brew Crew. If anything, the CC Sabathia Stakes will be a three horse race between the Yankees, Angels, and possibly either the Red Sox or Cubs.

 

[twigsanberries]

It's a damn shame how the brewers are abusing CC. If his arm doesn't fall off this season, it will ruin him down the road. 5 complete games...? I would love to know how many pitches he's averaging per start with Milwaukee. Same thing Dusty did with Prior, Wood and Clement in 03. The bullpen was not good enough for Dusty to put his faith in them to close out games, so pitchers were extended far more then they should. All three pitchers ended up with serious, serious arm problems down the road. The only way Wood was able to come back is because he only throws 20 pitches every second day. I hope this doesn't come to bite CC in the ass. I know he's angling for that big contract but man, this might be a little too much.

 

[Deisler]

You can't compare those three to CC. They are all on the light side. CC is a big dude. Pitchers like that don't come too often. Look at Clemens, Johnson and Zambrano. Thy all imposing figures. That is why they have lasted that long. 'Petite' hard throwing pitchers are better off to the pen. Look at the Rivera and Papelbon. They are the perfect example. un hittable for an inning or two. Beyond that they become random pitchers. That is why Chamberlain was put into the rotation. He is a huge dude.

There is only one true exception to this 'rule' and that is Johan Santana. That dude is AMAZING and consistently good for his size.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

It's a damn shame how the brewers are abusing CC. If his arm doesn't fall off this season, it will ruin him down the road. 5 complete games...? I would love to know how many pitches he's averaging per start with Milwaukee. Same thing Dusty did with Prior, Wood and Clement in 03. The bullpen was not good enough for Dusty to put his faith in them to close out games, so pitchers were extended far more then they should. All three pitchers ended up with serious, serious arm problems down the road. The only way Wood was able to come back is because he only throws 20 pitches every second day. I hope this doesn't come to bite CC in the ass. I know he's angling for that big contract but man, this might be a little too much.

I'm sure Mr. Chicago here has no ulterior motive for being so "concerned" about Carsten Charles.

 

[Deisler]

Why should he? Last time around them Cubs spanked your Brew Crew for 5 in a row. 5 in a row i tell ya.

 

[twigsanberries]

I'm sure Mr. Chicago here has no ulterior motive for being so "concerned" about Carsten Charles.

ah but you misunderstand. I am a huge Cubs fan, but a bigger sports fan. I LOVE what CC has done. Completely dominant. However, size of a body does not change the size of a tendon in one's arm. Mechanics, how often they were used in the past, how hard they throw, what pitches they throw... it all plays into the mix. I compared Cubs pitchers because I believed their workload was comparable with CCs and thought it would be a shame if his arm burned out.

You can't really compare Clemens... come on man those kinds of pitchers come around once a decade. Dude threw hard and stayed around. Not sure if HGH had anything to do to help with the longevity... Zambrano as an example? I've watched him every time for the past 5 seasons. He is NOT the same pitcher he once was. His breaking stuff is not as nasty and not as hard, and his fastball is 2-3 miles an hour slower. He was on the DL once already for "tightness". Overuse is murder. Not many pitchers can take one season, let alone multiple ones with the kind of mechanics that Zambrano had. Wood as well. As a rookie he was a flamethrower, used to hit 100 on the radar gun with his fastball. Look at Burnett. In florida he was a god, un-hittable. Now? Lucky if he can string 5 starts without a trip to the DL.

Look, don't get me wrong. This is an opinion of a sports fan. A 21 year old one at that. I would hate to see it happen. But if you think that just because CC is 300 pounds he can keep snapping his arm 130 times a game in a season for the rest of his career, you might want to check back next year when he becomes a shell of his former self. He's been a good pitcher for a while now though, but I did not follow him very closely in Cleveland so I can't give a true expert opinion.

Btw, until the Brew Crew shows they can beat the Cubbies, nothing to worry about. Last 2 weeks should be fun though. Think the schedule makers knew something we didn't?

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I know CC won't resign with the Crew. I don't care. We're going to get everything we possibly can out of him this season, then we'll move on with Yovani Gallardo in his place next year. No biggie.

We're paying like $10M to him for half the season. I could live off $10M for the rest of my life. He'll be FINE. And by the way, once he cashes in on his next deal, he might as well get injured and pull a Carl Pavano. Who cares, that money is guaranteed.

 

[Deisler]

he might as well get injured and pull a Carl Pavano. Who cares, that money is guaranteed.

American Idle was supposed to have a bullpen session tpday. Guess what it was cancelled due to stiffness in his back.

Let's do the math. 44 million for 19 starts, that's 2.32 million bucks a start.

 

[newbie original]

Typical Blue Jays with another .500 homestand....beat Yanks 2-1 and lose to Red Sox, 2-1.

NOW, what the hell.........Yankees send Melky Cabrera to the minors?

Latest rumor is that, in addition to Manny going to New York, A.J Burnett and C.C. will replace Mussina and Andy Pettitte next year. If that happens, Yankees' pitching will average 15 strikeouts a game.