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NFL 04/05 Season
- Thread starter dannyeli
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managed to watch my first american football game 
I actually enjoyed it, but I just can't understand how americans in general think soccer is boring when you worship a sport that stops for 3 or 4 minutes for every 5 or 10 sec of play.
I actually enjoyed it, but I just can't understand how americans in general think soccer is boring when you worship a sport that stops for 3 or 4 minutes for every 5 or 10 sec of play.
it wouldnt hurt. we have a hell of a defense, and 4 of our starters in the Offensive line have been to the Pro Bowl, but they could not be healthy to make a consistent run. we have a very solid QB who is one of the better passers already, but he got a serious injury, and we couldn't adjust.
Our best deep threat combination was, are you ready for this?
Craig Krenzel and Bernard Berrian
I mean kill me now... we need a legitimate receiver who can pull some attention and a couple of S or CB in his direction so that teams aren't ******* stacking 9 people in the box against us every time. but i wanna go on record saying i would not mind having williams on our team. i would meet his ass in the ******* airport and drive him to Soldier Field
Our best deep threat combination was, are you ready for this?
Craig Krenzel and Bernard Berrian
I mean kill me now... we need a legitimate receiver who can pull some attention and a couple of S or CB in his direction so that teams aren't ******* stacking 9 people in the box against us every time. but i wanna go on record saying i would not mind having williams on our team. i would meet his ass in the ******* airport and drive him to Soldier Field
gotta admit, lovie smith is gonna do even more wonders with that defence is they can stay healthy. the secondary is looking good with alot of playmakers, if urlacher can stay healthy and a dline that is gonna produce alot of sacks
that d is gonna win more games next year than they did this year, and im pretty sure they won like 4 alone with there d
that d is gonna win more games next year than they did this year, and im pretty sure they won like 4 alone with there d
but that one was great Fowler agrees to deal to buy Vikings
NFL.com wire reports
MINNEAPOLIS (Feb. 14, 2005) -- Arizona businessman Reggie Fowler agreed to buy the Minnesota Vikings in a deal that would make him the NFL's first black owner.
Fowler declined to say how much he would pay for the team. Published reports and a rival bidder, Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, put the price at about $625 million.
Owner Red McCombs had the team on the block since 2002. Taylor had offered about $600 million, though some of that money was contingent on a new stadium being built. If the league approves the deal, McCombs will make a huge profit -- he paid $246 million for the team in 1998.
Asked about becoming the league's first black owner, Fowler said in a seeming contradiction that he thought it was "a great thing" and not that big a thing. He said race didn't figure in negotiations with McCombs.
"He did not discount the price because of that," Fowler said, laughing.
NFL owners are to meet March 20-23 in Hawaii. League rules require 24 of the 32 owners to approve a sale. The NFL also mandates that a general partner must put down 30 percent of the cash portion of any franchise purchase.
The league said Fowler met Feb. 12 with commissioner Paul Tagliabue and will meet with the league's finance committee in Florida on March 9-10. The committee's report will then go to all the owners, who could vote during the Hawaii meetings.
Fowler's ownership group -- he said he had three limited partners -- faces the same problem that McCombs did: the Metrodome doesn't generate as much revenue as other NFL stadiums.
Fowler brushed aside questions about pressing for a new stadium and rejected any thought of moving the team.
"We want to focus today on just acquiring the team," he said at a news conference.
Fowler's ownership group faces the same problem that McCombs did: The Metrodome doesn't generate as much revenue as other NFL stadiums.
Opposition to a publicly funded stadium has been strong. And with the Vikings' Metrodome lease running through 2011, the Minnesota Twins and University of Minnesota football team are thought to be higher priorities with the Legislature.
State Senate Majority Leader Dean Johnson said Monday that Taylor, a former state legislator, would have had a better shot at money for a stadium.
"Fowler would have to start in first grade," Johnson said before the deal was announced.
Fowler is a former University of Wyoming football player. He now owns Spiral Inc., a company that supplies grocery stores with bags, cups, containers, labels and janitorial supplies.
A survey of NFL team values by Forbes magazine last fall estimated the Vikings worth at about $604 million.
As for the purchase, Fowler could borrow up to $125 million from the NFL's own leaguewide credit consortium. If the purchase price is near the reported $625 million, that would leave a balance of $500 million; Fowler's share of that would be about $150 million.
Fowler sidestepped questions about his personal worth and ability to pull off the deal.
"My kids think I'm worth a lot," he said.
During McCombs' run, the Vikings have sold out every home game and made the playoffs four times in seven seasons -- twice advancing to the NFC hampionship ame. But his popularity waned as he pushed harder for a new stadium, especially when he talked about moving the team to Los Angeles.
The Vikings spent five years pushing for a new stadium to be built in part with public money, before recently deciding to scale back their lobbying effort in the current legislative session. Because dozens of other clubs have either opened new stadiums or refurbished existing structures since his 1998 purchase, McCombs said the Vikings couldn't generate enough revenue in the 22-year-old Metrodome to compete.
McCombs said he would "always be a Viking" and regretted that he wasn't able to get a new stadium.
"I loved it," he said, referring to his ownership. "I think I did a very good job at it. But the fact of the matter is it was never going to work."
NFL.com wire reports
MINNEAPOLIS (Feb. 14, 2005) -- Arizona businessman Reggie Fowler agreed to buy the Minnesota Vikings in a deal that would make him the NFL's first black owner.
Fowler declined to say how much he would pay for the team. Published reports and a rival bidder, Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, put the price at about $625 million.
Owner Red McCombs had the team on the block since 2002. Taylor had offered about $600 million, though some of that money was contingent on a new stadium being built. If the league approves the deal, McCombs will make a huge profit -- he paid $246 million for the team in 1998.
Asked about becoming the league's first black owner, Fowler said in a seeming contradiction that he thought it was "a great thing" and not that big a thing. He said race didn't figure in negotiations with McCombs.
"He did not discount the price because of that," Fowler said, laughing.
NFL owners are to meet March 20-23 in Hawaii. League rules require 24 of the 32 owners to approve a sale. The NFL also mandates that a general partner must put down 30 percent of the cash portion of any franchise purchase.
The league said Fowler met Feb. 12 with commissioner Paul Tagliabue and will meet with the league's finance committee in Florida on March 9-10. The committee's report will then go to all the owners, who could vote during the Hawaii meetings.
Fowler's ownership group -- he said he had three limited partners -- faces the same problem that McCombs did: the Metrodome doesn't generate as much revenue as other NFL stadiums.
Fowler brushed aside questions about pressing for a new stadium and rejected any thought of moving the team.
"We want to focus today on just acquiring the team," he said at a news conference.
Fowler's ownership group faces the same problem that McCombs did: The Metrodome doesn't generate as much revenue as other NFL stadiums.
Opposition to a publicly funded stadium has been strong. And with the Vikings' Metrodome lease running through 2011, the Minnesota Twins and University of Minnesota football team are thought to be higher priorities with the Legislature.
State Senate Majority Leader Dean Johnson said Monday that Taylor, a former state legislator, would have had a better shot at money for a stadium.
"Fowler would have to start in first grade," Johnson said before the deal was announced.
Fowler is a former University of Wyoming football player. He now owns Spiral Inc., a company that supplies grocery stores with bags, cups, containers, labels and janitorial supplies.
A survey of NFL team values by Forbes magazine last fall estimated the Vikings worth at about $604 million.
As for the purchase, Fowler could borrow up to $125 million from the NFL's own leaguewide credit consortium. If the purchase price is near the reported $625 million, that would leave a balance of $500 million; Fowler's share of that would be about $150 million.
Fowler sidestepped questions about his personal worth and ability to pull off the deal.
"My kids think I'm worth a lot," he said.
During McCombs' run, the Vikings have sold out every home game and made the playoffs four times in seven seasons -- twice advancing to the NFC hampionship ame. But his popularity waned as he pushed harder for a new stadium, especially when he talked about moving the team to Los Angeles.
The Vikings spent five years pushing for a new stadium to be built in part with public money, before recently deciding to scale back their lobbying effort in the current legislative session. Because dozens of other clubs have either opened new stadiums or refurbished existing structures since his 1998 purchase, McCombs said the Vikings couldn't generate enough revenue in the 22-year-old Metrodome to compete.
McCombs said he would "always be a Viking" and regretted that he wasn't able to get a new stadium.
"I loved it," he said, referring to his ownership. "I think I did a very good job at it. But the fact of the matter is it was never going to work."
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!
Randy Moss to the silver and black, Raiders.
My favorite reciever to my most hated team, it's just not cool. I can already see the matchup...Randy Moss vs. Quentin Jammer
Randy Moss to the silver and black, Raiders.
My favorite reciever to my most hated team, it's just not cool. I can already see the matchup...Randy Moss vs. Quentin Jammer
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
Pinche Beto, I forgot you're one of 'dem Raider fans....
ESPN, it's not official yet but his agent reported it so it's probably true. He'll fit right in w/ the Raider crowd. Loudmouth-arragont-son's of b!tches. Yup, will fit right in.
2 of my roomates are Raider fans, one of them is already talking sh!t on how much they're gonna kills us next season. Stupid Raider fans.
Haha your trading:
1. Napoleon Harris, your best future LB
2. A possible franchise QB w/ the 7th pick
3. and maybe a late-round wonder kid...Tom Brady
You get:
1. Randy Moss (I already described him so...)
ESPN, it's not official yet but his agent reported it so it's probably true. He'll fit right in w/ the Raider crowd. Loudmouth-arragont-son's of b!tches. Yup, will fit right in.
2 of my roomates are Raider fans, one of them is already talking sh!t on how much they're gonna kills us next season. Stupid Raider fans.
Haha your trading:
1. Napoleon Harris, your best future LB
2. A possible franchise QB w/ the 7th pick
3. and maybe a late-round wonder kid...Tom Brady
You get:
1. Randy Moss (I already described him so...)
Yeah man, this guy was born to be a Raider.
"Randy Moss, who had a tenuous seven-year career with the Vikings, has been traded to the Raiders in exchange for linebacker Napoleon Harris, the Raiders' 2004 first-round pick (seventh overall) and a 2005 late-round pick, the St. Paul Pioneer Press has reported."
hhmm, I'm not so sure I'd personally be willing to give up that much for him. (:/)
"Randy Moss, who had a tenuous seven-year career with the Vikings, has been traded to the Raiders in exchange for linebacker Napoleon Harris, the Raiders' 2004 first-round pick (seventh overall) and a 2005 late-round pick, the St. Paul Pioneer Press has reported."
hhmm, I'm not so sure I'd personally be willing to give up that much for him. (:/)
xxxFLYERxxx
Starting XI
Originally posted by dannyeli
don't know actually why i wrote that
The Vikings win in this trade. Moss was just a nuisance. Now they have the 7th pick.
1) Yeah, I know.Originally posted by ronnifan9
Haha your trading:
1. Napoleon Harris, your best future LB
2. A possible franchise QB w/ the 7th pick
3. and maybe a late-round wonder kid...Tom Brady
2) We weren't going to draft a QB anyway, we were supposedly going to draft either Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown, can't do that now.
3) Never know.
That's why I said wouldn't give up that much, they can take the late pick but I don't like giving up the first 2. I guess that's why we're the Raiders.
