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Oceania loses direct WC place

::Jason::

Starting XI
Saudi Arabia sucks arse compared to Australia. I think that aussies deserve a full spot. Japan is a great team and they will be seen in every world cup from now on, since they just can´t choke that bad. China - just one team more for Bora Milutinovic to coach on worldcup..
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
I am not going to get too involved in this discussion, as it is repetitive and Alex is about the only one who makes any sense when the issue of Oceania and qualification spots comes up. But for those of you claiming that Australia would not have performed at the last world cup... well they would have dispatched of both Saudi Arabia and China at least, and most certainly would not have lost 9-0 to Germany. Also, they outclassed England, albeit in a friendly, but it was a friendly on English soil. Put them in the AFC and with a first choice team they would make the finals. New Zealand didn't do Oceanias reputation much good at the Confederations Cup, but Australia should not be judged on that.
 

culo

Youth Team
Originally posted by rhizome17
I am not going to get too involved in this discussion, as it is repetitive and Alex is about the only one who makes any sense when the issue of Oceania and qualification spots comes up

Yeah, and he is very objective :rolleyes:

to quote him twice:

"Oceania again have just been snubbed by the world orgainsation, who obviosuly dont want to expand the game past where its currently big: Europe and South America"

"how can you say that when ASIA have 4.5 places!!!"

Seems to me that he's the only one that is talking complete sh*te.

Poor old Australia :mrpimp:, it's just not fair :p .
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
still bitter at the pathetic English capitulation?

I can't see that what you have just said counters anyones argument. If the World Cup is meant to be a showcase of world football, then it seems pretty strange that Fifa goes out of their way to make sure that not all the world is represented. Unless you want to argue that the competition is somehow enhanced by having 9-0 defeats, as a result of Asia having 4.5 spots, and Oceania 0.5.
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
I am not from Australia. And I think Tuvalu would have something to say about that comment... notice the name soccergaming.TV?
 

KLINSMANN

Reserve Team
Originally posted by vince15
If Australia can't win against a mediocre South American team they wouldn't deserve a World Cup spot.

Totally agree! But I still think that Oceania should have a half-spotwith Asia and North America with South America. Asia TOTALLY does not deserve 4.5 spots!!!! It makes me MAD!!!!!!!!!! :f***: :f***: :f***: :f***: :f***: :f***:
 

O Corinthiano

Club Supporter
Simply... change the Play-off

put ASIA x OCEANIA
and CONCACAF X SOUTH AMERICA...

instead of CONCACAF X ASIA
and SOUTH AMERICA x OFC

i think Australia can beat the 5th Asian team!!
 

Gareth

Starting XI
It's not so much that we have to play a play-off game, but that FIFA has done a backflip, which they overturned a previous decision and a promise from Sepp himself.

It's a disgrace FIFA.
 

culo

Youth Team
Originally posted by rhizome17
still bitter at the pathetic English capitulation?
I'm not english, so why would I be?


Originally posted by rhizome17
I can't see that what you have just said counters anyones argument. If the World Cup is meant to be a showcase of world football, then it seems pretty strange that Fifa goes out of their way to make sure that not all the world is represented.
I must have the missed the bit where FIFA decided to ban Oceanic teams.

Originally posted by rhizome17
Unless you want to argue that the competition is somehow enhanced by having 9-0 defeats, as a result of Asia having 4.5 spots, and Oceania 0.5.
Making up arguments and trying to attribute them to me?

You seem to be unable to grasp the point that nearly everyone who objects to Oceania having an automatic qualification spot is on the grounds that the quality of teams, with the exception of Australia, is woefully inadequate.
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
which is why people are arguing that at the very least they should be playing an Asian team in a playoff.

and it is not that Fifa has banned an oceania team, it is that they don't have an automatic spot, which should be the case if the World Cup is to be a showcase of WORLD FOOTBALL. the world cup is not necessarily about automatically finding the 'best' team in the world, it is a showcase of WORLD football with the best teams from each federation. And Oceania is the only one not represented.
 

ZePenguin

Starting XI
Originally posted by rhizome17

and it is not that Fifa has banned an oceania team, it is that they don't have an automatic spot, which should be the case if the World Cup is to be a showcase of WORLD FOOTBALL. the world cup is not necessarily about automatically finding the 'best' team in the world, it is a showcase of WORLD football with the best teams from each federation. And Oceania is the only one not represented.

geez, not again, the WORLD CUP is not only the final stage, the world cup is also the qualifying...

otherwise i could also say: 'hey that's not right, all the confederations are not represented in the last 16, that's disgusting!'
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
and if you want to include the qualifying, and therefore find the best 32 teams to play inthe final stages, then that would mean EVERY team on the planet has to play EVERY other team, home and away, in a league format to find the BEST 32 teams in the world, which would then plau EVERY other team in the 32 to find the BEST team in the world. Simply, a Cup format does NOT find out the BEST team in the world. The FIFA world cup is a SHOWCASE of GLOBAL football, which make NO sense when a part of the globe is virtually left out.
 

Alistair

Starting XI
what a load of bs from sepp blatter.. this is a WORLD cup as many people have already stated. oceania deserves a spot even though australia or new zealand are the only real chances of making it in to the competition..
 

rhizome17

Fan Favourite
But I don't think they would be getting a divine right. I think that with the exception of some South American teams, most people here don't realise the difficulties in getting a National team together when most of the players ply their trade on the other side of the world. Which is exactly what Australia faces, and is the reason they were not at the Confederations Cup. Yet you saw what a first-choice Australian team did to England.

Sure, there is the stupidity of 32-nil or whatever against teams like Western Samoa, but that only indicates that Fifa needs to look at the way the qualifiers are spread, and that maybe they should merge Oceania and Asia or something.

But the fact reamins: the World Cup is a showcase of global football, which means that all regions of the globe should be represented.
 
C

C-B

Guest
YOU GODDAMN WAIT FOR 20 YEARS TO GET IN TO THE WC, GET A TICKET IN, AND GET KCKED OUT AGAIN!!!
DAMN FIFA!!
 


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