Official thread of Liga Argentina: Clausura [2005-2006].

[SnYper]

Ortega should never play again at River as far as I'm concerned. He spent the entire game looking for his goal just so he could stick it to the fans. His celebration was stupid and showed just how much class he has. The last time he scored against River he was nice about it and asked for forgiveness to the fans, but what he did on Sunday was wrong. I'm glad everyone swore at him and when Newell's come to The Monumental in the Apertura(if he's still there) I hope he gets whistled for the entire 90 mins.

Ronnifan: It's an unwritten rule in football that you don't celebrate a goal against your former team, let alone the club that made you the footballer you are today.

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

I guess his celebration, was more like against the River's managment than against River supporters. Like "if you want me to score for you, you got to pay".

Also, did you know that River seems to be interested in Crosa?:funny:
You can see his abilities in that goal of Agüero against Racing.:funny:

 

[SnYper]

Also, did you know that River seems to be interested in Crosa?:funny:
You can see his abilities in that goal of Agüero against Racing.:funny:

U$S 1.600.000

He is pretty much our last resort but I hope that deal doesn't go through. He isn't worth anywhere near that amount. I'd rather bring back el Tano Nasuti. I don't understand what management at River has against him, he was half-decent when he was last with River. The sale of Coty Fernandez is looking like a terrible idea right about now...

San Lorenzo is looking to hire Ramon Diaz....

 

[SnYper]

Ortega is coming back to River Plate tommorow.

NOB owed him a large amount of money in wages and he decided he gave the president of Newell's an ultimatum: Pay me what you owe me, or sell me to River Plate. If Newell's wouldn't comply with either choice, he would have retired.

Newell's couldn't afford to pay him what they owe and River stepped up their interest and made an offer which was accepted by Newell's. All that remains is for the payment schedule to be worked out and the move will be finalized.

Ortega will only be eligible to play the Copa Libertadores.

I personally don't know what to make of this move. After the loss to NOB I was furious so my comments were in the heat of the moment. His post game interview where he clarified everything went further to cool my anger. I still don't know, this is a lot of money to be paying for a player past his prime.
:chew:

 

[Axolote]

My fingers are crossed, im hoping this rumour its true...

Ortega is one of the greatest players ive ever seen...

Sadly he will only play in the Libertadores, i was hoping that he could play against Boca...but boca isnt playing the Cup...

Talking about the game against Banfield, it was a very difficult game. Banfield its a good team and we lost 1-4 against them last year...

Lucho Figueroa scored his first goal, lets hope he keep scoring...

I would like to see sometime Lucho and Farias together...

 

[romero]

Why can't Ortega play the Clausura but the CL? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

[Axolote]

Why can't Ortega play the Clausura but the CL? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

He wont play any with River...he will stay in Newels, at least until June...

The transfer in the clausura are closed, in the libertadores you have time until 2 hours before your first game in the Libertadores start to sign players...

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

Well it seems Ortega's transfer has been frustrated once again. However it seems that he won't be able to play at Newell's either because Newell's owes money to Fenerbahçe.

Here the result of the 2 pending matches.

Gimnasia LP vs. Arsenal FC 0-0

River Plate vs. Gimnasia J. 2-0
36' FH Federico Dominguez 1-0
12' SH Ernesto Farias 2-0

And here the scores of the 4th matchday.

Argentinos Juniors vs. Independiente 2-1 (:/)
8' FH Eduardo Bustos Montoya 0-1
12' FH Nicolás Pareja 1-1
34' SH Leonel Núñez 2-1

San Lorenzo vs. Olimpo B.B. 2-0
17' FH José Saturnino Cardozo 1-0
30' FH Osmar Ferreyra 2-0 <--- If you guessed from a free kick, then you guessed right.

Tiro Federal vs. Colón Sta. Fe 0-1
17' SH Franco Cangele(PK) 0-1

Racing Club vs. Vélez Sarsfield 0-2 :boohoo:
18' FH Mauro Zárate 0-1
45' FH Darío Ocampo 0-2

Newell's vs. Gimnasia J. 3-1
43' FH Ignacio Scocco 1-0
5' SH Diego Gavilán 2-0
18' SH Israel Damonte 2-1
31' SH Nicolás Spolli 3-1

Gimnasia LP vs. Estudiantes LP 1-1
21' FH Marcelo Carrusca 0-1
9' SH Diego Herner 1-1

Lanús vs. Rosario Central 2-0
6' SH Cristian Fabbiani 1-0
32' SH Sebastián Leto 2-0

Quilmes AC vs. Arsenal FC 1-0
20' FH silvio Carrario 1-0

River Plate vs. Banfield 3-1
5' FH Cristian Leiva 0-1
39' FH Luciano Figueroa 1-1
9' SH Gonzalo Higuaín 2-1
39' SH Marcelo Gallardo 3-1

Instituto Cba. vs. Boca Juniors 1-1
10' SH Matias Silvestre 0-1
22' SH Daniel Jimenez 1-1

The table after 4 matches.

1- Colón Sta. Fe 10
2- River Plate 9 +7
3- Newell's Old Boys 9 +5
4- Estudiantes LP 8 +4
5- Vélez Sarsfield 8 +3
6- Independiente 7 +5
7- Boca Juniors 7 +2
8- Lanús 7 0
9- Argentinos Juniors 6 +1
10- Banfield 6 0(7-7)
11- Quilmes AC 6 0(4-4)
12- Gimnasia J. 6 -2
13- Arsenal FC 5
14- San Lorenzo 4 0
15- Olimpo B.B. 4 -1
16- Tiro Federal 3
17- Gimnasia LP 2
18- Rosario Central 1 -4
19- Racing Club 1 -6
20- Instituto Cba. -10

And these will be the matches of the coming matchday, the 5th.

Friday 17/2
Estudiantes LP vs. Racing Club
Banfield vs. Newell's Old Boys

Saturday 18/2
Vélez Sarsfield vs. Quilmes AC
Independiente vs. Gimnasia LP

Sunday 19/2
Rosario Central vs. Instituto Cba.
Gimnasia J. vs. Lanús
Arsenal FC vs. Tiro Federal
Boca Juniors vs. San Lorenzo
Olimpo B.B. vs. Argentinos Juniors
Colón Sta. Fe vs. River Plate

Well, well Simeone will turn into Racing's new coach before expected, the saturday and not after Independiente's match like it was said. Too bad because that mean that his first match as coach(vs. Independiente) will be a loss.

About Independiente's match, well the bad luck invades again although this time it gave a negative result, many players that got injured during match, Agüero(who will be absent the saturday to he can play the classic the other week, will be replaced by C. Pereyra) Armenteros(who is unknown if will be back the saturday), Biglia who played like most of the match injured with Agüero, and then Fabro who replaced Armenteros 'cuz of his injury and got injured too and also was replaced. The 2 goals were quite of bad luck, the linesmen didn't notice the off-side on the first one, however can't blame him because it was very hard to detect, and the 2nd goal came after Abraham failed to clear the ball out of box(Abraham still lamented that unfortunate play). So quite a loss caus of bad luck, now to wait for Gimnasia LP and specially. GET READY FOR THE CLASSIC.

 

[Chacarita Juniors]

River Plate 2 - 2 Colon (Lucho Figueroa X2; Denis, Fuertes)

.....
1. Estudiantes La Plata 11pts.
2. Vélez Sarsfield 11 pts.
3. Colón de Santa Fe 11 pts.
4. River Plate 10 pts.
5. Newell's Old Boys 10 pts.

The defending CHUMPS...
San Lorenzo 2 - 0 Boca Jr.'s :fool:

 

[Axolote]

Lucho is on fire...!!!

He played with a lot of spirit (huevos), in the first half he was too lonley in the attack, becouse Gonzalo Higuain didnt had a good game...

I also liked Zapata, running the entire game, and a great assist in the first goal...

Lux is back to his level...and had great saves...

We improved a lot since our last game vs. Libertad...

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

Heh, defending chumps. I believe Boca will just dedicate to mediatic scandal these months and will play for nothing. Also i got to say that River's match was very entertaining.

Here the scores of the 5th matchday.

Estudiantes LP vs. Racing Club 2-1 :boohoo:
42' FH José Sosa 1-0
15' SH Pablo Lugüercio 2-0
19' SH Raúl Estévez 2-1

Banfield vs. Newell's Old Boys 2-2 <--- Another entertaining match.
15' SH Antonio Barijho 1-0
24' SH Josemir Lujambio 2-0
26' SH Ariel Zapata 2-1
40' SH Ignacio Scocco 2-2

Vélez Sarsfield vs. Quilmes AC 2-0
26' FH Rolando Zárate 1-0
31' FH Rolando Zárate 2-0

Independiente vs. Gimnasia LP 0-1
10' SH Lucas Licht 0-1

Rosario Central vs. Instituto Cba. 1-0
3' SH Germán Alemanno 1-0

Gimnasia J. vs. Lanús 1-0
4' SH Matias Oyola 1-0

Arsenal FC vs. Tiro Federal 3-0
12' FH Patricio González 1-0
32' FH Patricio González 2-0
32' SH Mariano Brau 3-0

Boca Juniors vs. San Lorenzo 1-2 :boohoo:
16' FH Sebastián Saja(PK) 0-1
26' SH Darío Botinelli 0-2
45' SH Federico Insúa 1-2

Olimpo B.B. vs. Argentinos Juniors 4-1
6' FH Alejandro Delorte 1-0
18' FH Ezequiel Maggiolo 2-0
22' SH Leonel Nuñez 2-1
24' SH Juan Ramón Fernandez 3-1
34' SH David Rámirez 4-1

Colón Sta. Fe vs. River Plate 2-2
24' FH Luciano Figueroa 0-1
29' FH Germán Denis 1-1
40' FH Esteban Fuertes 2-1
15' SH Luciano Figueroa 2-2

Well about Independiente's match not a lot to say, quite like what happened with Argentinos Juniors, bad luck again, if we become champions it won't be because of our luck, also now i guess the lack of Armenteros caused a bit of disorder in the midfield. THE SATURDAY WILL BE THE REAL DEAL.

The table after 5 matches.

1- Estudiantes LP 11 +5(11-6)
2- Vélez Sarsfield 11 +5(7-2)
3- Colón Sta. Fe 11 +3
4- River Plate 10 +7
5- Newell's Old Boys 10 +5
6- Gimnasia J. 9
7- Arsenal FC 8
8- Independiente 7 +4 <-- Not far from the top but could be better.(:/)
9- Boca Juniors 7 +2(8-6)
10- Olimpo B.B. 7 +2(7-5)
11- San Lorenzo 7 +1
12- Banfield 7 0
13- Lanús 7 -1
14- Argentinos Juniors 6 -2(6-8)
15- Quilmes AC 6 -2(4-6)
16- Gimnasia LP 5
17- Rosario Central 4
18- Tiro Federal 3
19- Racing Club 1 -7 <--- Just like it was expected.
20- Instituto Cba. 1 -11

The shame of argentinian football table... err... Average table.

1- Boca Juniors 1.7 170/100
2- Vélez Sarsfield 1.7 170/100
3- River Plate 1.64 164/100
4- Banfield 1.58 158/100
5- San Lorenzo 1.49 149/100
6- Estudiantes LP 1.44 144/100
7- Newell's Old Boys 1.41 141/100
8- Arsenal FC 1.39 139/100
9- Colón Sta. Fe 1.39 139/100
10- Gimnasia LP 1.34 134/100
11- Racing Club 1.34 134/100
12- Independiente 1.32 132/100
13- Rosario Central 1.31 133/100
14- Quilmes AC 1.29 129/100
15- Lanús 1.26 126/100
16- Argentinos Juniors 1.241 77/62
17- Gimnasia J. 1.125 27/24
18- Olimpo B.B. 1.12 112/100
19- Instituto Cba. 0.935 58/62
20- Tiro Federal 0.75 18/24

Top scorers table.

1- Ignacio Scocco(Newell's Old Boys) 6
2- Patricio Gonzalez(Arsenal FC) 3
2- Cristian Leiva(Banfield) 3
2- Martín Palermo(Boca Juniors) 3
2- Esteban Fuertes(Colón Sta. Fe) 3
2- Eduardo Bustos Montoya(Independiente) 3
2- Luciano Figueroa(River Plate) 3
2- Daniel Montenegro(River Plate) 3
2- Rolando Zárate(Vélez Sarsfield) 3

The matchday 6 matches.

Friday 24/2
Newell's Old Boys vs. Colón Sta. Fe

Saturday 25/2
Racing Club vs. Independiente <-- Avellaneda's classic.
Quilmes AC vs. Estudiantes LP
Gimnasia LP vs. Olimpo B.B.
Banfield vs. Gimnasia J.
River Plate vs. Arsenal FC

Sunday 26/2
San Lorenzo vs. Rosario Central
Argentinos Juniors vs. Boca Juniors
Instituto Cba. vs. Lanús
Tiro Federal vs. Vélez Sarsfield

Well well, Avellaneda's classic, the second most important classic in Argentina, will be the saturday, it'll be Simeone's first match as coach, also for this match both Agüero and Armenteros will be back. Hopefully Carrizo will be starting and Eduardo Dominguez will be the left wing back and Lorgio Alvarez the right wing back.

Also Agüero made his first nike commercial, it's his goal against Racing with his comment on the back, both Agüero and Ustari now wear that Nike happiness wrist band, since they both are Nike kids.

http://www.infiernorojo.com/videos/relato_kun.mpg

 

[SnYper]

I usually come and post comments regarding the River games but the game wasn't the big story. Sadly, that idiot with a knife from the barra of Colon was the story.

What a disgrace. No respect or value for a human life. He stabs a guy, slaps a woman in the face, and knocks a little kid out of the stands and to the ground. Of course, he does all this and then gets back into the stands like nothing went wrong, and is treated like royalty by the rest of the Colon fans.

The video is on youtube but I'd rather not post the link. ******* disgusting.

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

I heard they didn't do anything about the guy until the second half, when all the mess was before the match even started. I guess the other Colón fans didn't want to mess with him. Once again, as usual, the police is to blame.

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

Well well, the 6th matchday finished.

Newell's Old Boys vs. Colón Sta. Fe 0-0

Racing Club vs. Independiente 0-2
9' SH Sergio Agüero 0-1
12' SH Sergio Agüero 0-2

Quilmes AC vs. Estudiantes LP 1-0
32' SH Gonzalo Choy 1-0

Gimnasia LP vs. Olimpo B.B. 3-1
6' FH Gonzalo Vargas 1-0
31' FH Gonzalo Vargas 1-0
19' SH Gonzalo Vargas 1-0
30' SH Alejandro Delorte 3-1

Banfield vs. Gimnasia J. 2-1
45' FH Josemir Lujambio 1-0
30' SH Ismael Damonte 1-1
40' SH Josemir Lujambio 2-1

River Plate vs. Arsenal FC 3-1
31' FH Ernesto Farias 1-0
6' SH Leonardo Talamonti 2-0
37' SH Ernesto Farias 3-0
44' SH Santiago Hirsig 3-1

San Lorenzo vs. Rosario Central 0-0

Argentinos Juniors vs. Boca Juniors 1-2
35' FH Marcelo Delgado 0-1
39' FH Franco Niell 1-1
13' SH Juan Krupoviesa 1-2

Instituto Cba. vs. Lanús 2-1
34' FH Gustavo Bergessio 1-0
17' SH Claudio Graf 1-1
46' SH Pablo Frontini 2-1

Tiro Federal vs. Vélez Sarsfield 3-3
3' FH Walter Bustamante 0-1
14' FH Javier Campora 1-1
43' FH Emanuel Centurión 1-2
8' SH Javier Campora 2-2
23' SH Emanuel Centurión(PK) 2-3
25' SH Walter Alcaraz(OG) 3-3

The table after 6 matches.

1- River Plate 13
2- Vélez Sarsfield 12 +5
3- Colón Sta. Fe 12 +3
4- Newell's Old Boys 11 +5
5- Estudiantes LP 11 +4
6- Independiente 10 +6
7- Boca Juniors 10 +3
8- Banfield 10 +1
9- Quilmes AC 9 -1
10- Gimnasia J. 9 -2
11- Arsenal FC 8 -1(6-5)
12- Gimnasia LP 8 -1(6-5)
13- San Lorenzo 8 -1(6-5)
14- Olimpo B.B. 7 0
15- Lanús 7 -2
16- Argentinos Juniors 6
17- Rosario Central 5
18- Tiro Federal 4 -9
19- Instituto Cba. 4 -10
20- Racing Club 1 <--

Coming match, matchday 7:

Tuesday 28/2
Colón Sta. Fe vs. Banfield <-- Actually finished Colón won 4-2.
Olimpo B.B. vs. Racing Club <-- Olimpo wins 1-0 at the end of the first half.
Independiente vs. Quilmes AC

Wednesday 1º/3
Vélez Sarsfield vs. River Plate <-- This should be interesting.
Arsenal FC vs. Newell's Old Boys
Gimnasia J. vs. Instituto Cba.
Lanús vs. San Lorenzo
Estudiantes LP vs. Tiro Federal
Rosario Central vs. Argentinos Juniors
Boca Juniors vs. Gimnasia LP

I guess we got to get used to see Vélez and Estudiantes in the top 5, like in these last 2 seasons.

Absurd standings: River is the team that scores the most of the goals, 16 goals.
Independiente received the lesser goal, only 3 in the 6 matches so far.
Rosario Central made the lesser goals only 2.
Argentinos Juniors and Banfield(before playing Colón) received most of the goals 10 each one.

Well Abbondanzieri is the only local player going with the national since Ustari got a small injury on his arm, unknown it is if he will play against Quillmes too.

And for the record.

http://www.infiernorojo.com/avellaneda.wmv

 

[SnYper]

Velez 1 - 1 River Plate
A good result considering that Velez has been a very good and consistent squad for the past 2 years. Nice to see Tecla return to his usual form. Never has he scored a goal in an important match. I seriously hope he shuts me up but I don't see that happening any time soon.

Kun Aguero :Bow:
A Racing me lo cojo!!!!! and after with Los Leales

This Racing squad is pathetic. They are a bunch of coach killers and now they are torching all of their idols. If they continue like this, Simeone will be gone shortly, which seems very likely. Who the hell would want to coach that squad?

 

[Cityhunter]

Hello Guys,

I am a Anderlecht-fan and we recently signed Nicolas Frutos from Independiente (? correct me if I write this is wrong). We are very happy about him: a real teamplayer, some nice moves, quite fast. He already scored 5 goals in 6 games. Anyway: our manager is back in Argentina and the press is suggesting some names: Biglia, Sergio Agüero (!!!)...

I hear Agüero is absolute world class and we are not able to pay him, but we think we can set up a deal with Barcelona, so he can come play two year for us and then goes to Barca...(this is a rumor). So what can you tell me about these players? or Maybe some links?

Thanks!

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

Results of the 7th matchday.

Colón Sta. Fe vs. Banfield 4-2
3' FH Germán Denis 1-0
12' FH Gastón Galván 1-1
20' FH Franco Cángele 2-1
27' FH Germán Denis 3-1
40' SH José Sand 3-2
43' SH Cristian Zurita 4-2

Olimpo B.B. vs. Racing Club 3-0 :boohoo:
38' FH Javier Páez 1-0
25' SH Ezequiel Maggiolo 2-0
43' SH Jesús Mendez 3-0

Independiente vs. Quilmes AC 0-0 (:/)

Vélez Sarsfield vs. River Plate 1-1
24' SH Leandro Gracián 1-0
28' SH Federico Dominguez 1-1

Arsenal FC vs. Newell's Old Boys 0-1
18' FH Adrian Lucero 0-1

Gimnasia J. vs. Instituto Cba. 2-0
14' SH Héctor Silva 1-0
28' SH Gustavo Balvorín 2-0

Lanús vs. San Lorenzo 2-0
31' FH Sebastián Leto 1-0
43' FH Santiago Biglieri 2-0

Estudiantes LP vs. Tiro Federal 0-3
8' FH Adrian Romero 0-1
25' FH Luciano De Bruno 0-2
16' SH Ariel Carreño 0-3

Rosario Central vs. Argentinos Juniors 1-1
43' FH Diego Rivarola 0-1
39' SH Emiliano Vecchio 1-1

Boca Juniors vs. Gimnasia LP 3-0
26' FH Daniel Bilos 1-0
19' SH Martín Palermo 2-0
43' SH Marcelo Delgado 3-0

The table...

1- Colón Sta. Fe 15
2- River Plate 14 +9
3- Newell's Old Boys 14 +6
4- Boca Juniors 13 +6
5- Vélez Sarsfield 13 +5
6- Gimnasia J. 12
7- Independiente 11 +6 <-- Not far, we will get up.
8- Estudiantes LP 11 +1
9- Olimpo B.B. 10 +3
10- Lanús 10 0
11- Banfield 10 -1(13-14)
12- Quilmes AC 10 -1(5-6)
13- Arsenal FC 8 0
14- San Lorenzo 8 -1
15- Gimnasia LP 8 -2
16- Argentinos Juniors 7 -3
17- Tiro Federal 7 -6
18- Rosario Central 6
19- Instituto Cba. 4
20- Racing Club 1 <--

The coming matches from matchday 8.

Saturday 4/3
Tiro Federal vs. Independiente
San Lorenzo vs. Instituto Cba.
Newell's Old Boys vs. Vélez Sarsfield

Sunday 5/3
Quilmes AC vs. Olimpo B.B.
Colón Sta. Fe vs. Gimnasia J.
Racing Club vs. Boca Juniors
Gimnasia LP vs. Rosario Central
Argentinos Juniors vs. Lanús
Banfield vs. Arsenal FC
River Plate vs. Estudiantes LP

Well not a lot about Independiente's match, shown a lot of inconsistency in the midfield, Quilmes got some chances but Ustari was there to throw any hope of Quilmes away, same with Ramirez for Independiente, although Quilmes had some more chances, i insist the lack of Armenteros shows to be important in the midfield, Biglia, Agüero and Bustos Montoya tried but couldn't do anything, Machin didn't have a good match, also at Independiente's defense it was a good match of the bolivian Lorgio Alvarez. Bruno and Fredes had good appareances when they entered but couldn't reach the goal. More likely the man of the match was Ustari, how ironic when you think that some hours before the same day Abbondanzieri messed up for the national team.

Hello Guys,

I am a Anderlecht-fan and we recently signed Nicolas Frutos from Independiente (? correct me if I write this is wrong). We are very happy about him: a real teamplayer, some nice moves, quite fast. He already scored 5 goals in 6 games. Anyway: our manager is back in Argentina and the press is suggesting some names: Biglia, Sergio Agüero (!!!)...

I hear Agüero is absolute world class and we are not able to pay him, but we think we can set up a deal with Barcelona, so he can come play two year for us and then goes to Barca...(this is a rumor). So what can you tell me about these players? or Maybe some links?

Thanks!

5 goals in 6 matches, heh that's the way of Frutos, maybe he would have been the top scorer in the Apertura but he just left in the middle. Both Biglia and Agüero were teammates of Messi in the U20 world cup, actually Biglia(alongside Ustari(U20 keeper) and Agüero) is being followed for the national team. At Independiente Biglia plays as a left central midfield he has also played as a left midfielder although he needed some company there. Biglia is probably one of the strongest spots of Independiente. To see some videos of Agüero check the previous pages of this thread.

 

[Axolote]

River won 3-1 against Estudiantes.

But we lost our best player, Lucho Figueroa suffered an important injury in his left knee. Apparently it is a torn ligament. :boohoo:

I just hope that he recover fast.



The good news are that Gallardo played like he knows and Santana return in a great level...

 

[Alianza]

That sucks for LUcho i really though he would have a breakout season at River,
Can anybody tell me about Colon are they for real o do you think theyll fall out of the map in the coming weeks, i hope they do good Vargas(peruvian ) still plays there.

 

[Cityhunter]

Now Anderlecht wants to pay 3 miljon Euro for Armenteros. You think thats a fair deal?