Question of the Week: New Stars

[kp41]

So basically the question is:

1- Do you think the number of new top top players decreased compare to 1990s and early 2000s?

2- Why young prospects don't improve as much as we expect them to? (E.g. Gotze)

3- What FIFA, UEFA, club and countries can do in this regard?

 

[Arnau]

The only difference between 10/20 years ago is that nowadays all the stars are in only two teams.

 

[Mus]

2 answer is because everyone is touted as a young star now

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Just because Gotze as an individual hasn't improved doesn't mean that players don't improve. Look at Pogba, look at Alaba, injuries aside look at Thiago. Serie A has done a horrible job managing its youth the past decade for some reason, but I would say that generally there are a lot of highly achieving young players coming out of Spain and Germany.

 

[Filipower]

I laughed at the second question, one day after we sold Danilo for 31M to Real Madrid.

 

[kp41]

Portugal clubs always sell their players at high price ... how much Benfica got for that Fellaini look alike?

I know there are some examples like Pogba and Alaba, but it shouldn't necessarily take that long ... Ronaldo, Del Piero, Totti, Henry, Dinho, and many other mega stars peaked at a very young age in 1990s and early 2000s.

Apart from Ronaldo and Messi, how many Ballon Dor caliber player was produced in the last 5-10 years???!!!

The most surprising is Brazil for me!!!

 

[Filipower]

Apart from Ronaldo and Messi, how many Ballon Dor caliber player was produced in the last 5-10 years???!!!

This is a common misconception nowadays, that the fact that the last decade has been dominated by Ronaldo and Messi means no one else is really good and that "back in the day" there were more good players. Just because Messi and Ronaldo are a step above everyone else, it doesn't mean that there isn't as much or even more talent around as there was before.

 

[theo]

I think it's the lack of motivation. nowadays you can make millions as a backup for WBA or Hull.

social media plays a part too probably.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I know there are some examples like Pogba and Alaba, but it shouldn't necessarily take that long

What the hell are you talking about, both of those guys are 21 years old and have been two of the best players at their position in the world for the last 3 years. And LOL at you criticizing Pogba and Alaba for not peaking early, and citing Ronaldinho as an example of someone who peaked at a young age. You have no idea what you're talking about. Ronaldinho was 22 his last year at PSG and could hardly be considered a ballon d'or quality player until maybe his second or third year at Barcelona.

You say stars aren't being developed at a young age, I'll cite a few more:

Eden Hazard, James Rodriguez, Neymar, De Gea, Courtois, De Bruyne, Sterling, Oscar, Isco, Verratti.

 

[Filipower]

Yeah if anything guys are getting picked up and getting the spotlight and starting spots and developing at a YOUNGER age today.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

I would say the average age of a 'star' player at the peak of their form is probably far lower than it was 10/20 years ago, and I also think rhe overall standard of young footballers and number of young stars in the world at this time is as good or better than any other moment in football history.

 

[Pogba4Now]

What the hell are you talking about, both of those guys are 21 years old and have been two of the best players at their position in the world for the last 3 years. And LOL at you criticizing Pogba and Alaba for not peaking early, and citing Ronaldinho as an example of someone who peaked at a young age. You have no idea what you're talking about. Ronaldinho was 22 his last year at PSG and could hardly be considered a ballon d'or quality player until maybe his second or third year at Barcelona.

You say stars aren't being developed at a young age, I'll cite a few more:

Eden Hazard, James Rodriguez, Neymar, De Gea, Courtois, De Bruyne, Sterling, Oscar, Isco, Verratti.

Sterling among these players?! LOL. He is massively overrated and it has nothing to do with me hating Liverpool because I like Coutinho and rate him very high. He is still 22. Unfortunately he does not get any media attention like Sterling because he is Brazilian.

I do not think the number of top players has decreased in general but the number of top defenders specifically has significantly decreased.

Young prospects do not improve much because maybe they peak early. Some remain at their peak for longer periods of time.

 

[Xaviesta]

Apart from Ronaldo and Messi, how many Ballon Dor caliber player was produced in the last 5-10 years???!!!

The most surprising is Brazil for me!!!

Messi is the best player ever and Ronaldo is a great goalscorer. If those 2 didn't exist, Xavi and Iniesta would probably have 2 each, Ribery etc. There plenty of talented players, but it's more difficult now to win an important trophy.

@Shifty plus Alexis, Reus, Ozil etc

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Messi is the best player ever and Ronaldo is a great goalscorer. If those 2 didn't exist, Xavi and Iniesta would probably have 2 each, Ribery etc. There plenty of talented players, but it's more difficult now to win an important trophy.

@Shifty plus Alexis, Reus, Ozil etc

LOL at Xavi and Iniesta having 2 each.

Alexis, Reus, and Ozil are not young.

Yes, Sterling included. No he is not world class yet, but at 18 and 19 he was doing amazing things and continues to improve.

 

[Xaviesta]

Alexis Reus abd Ozil were stars at 21, that's what I meant. Koke is world class too and he's 22 or something.

I'm serious about Xavi and Iniesta. Xavi 2 and Iniesta 1, something like that.

 

[kp41]

What the hell are you talking about, both of those guys are 21 years old and have been two of the best players at their position in the world for the last 3 years. And LOL at you criticizing Pogba and Alaba for not peaking early, and citing Ronaldinho as an example of someone who peaked at a young age. You have no idea what you're talking about. Ronaldinho was 22 his last year at PSG and could hardly be considered a ballon d'or quality player until maybe his second or third year at Barcelona.

You say stars aren't being developed at a young age, I'll cite a few more:

Eden Hazard, James Rodriguez, Neymar, De Gea, Courtois, De Bruyne, Sterling, Oscar, Isco, Verratti.

you butthurt over Iran's nuclear deal, republican scumbag!!!

If we consider Brazil, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Argentina, and maybe England top nations in football ... all of them except Germany and Spain failed to produce as many top stars as the did in 1990s ... that's a fact soldier.

 

[Mus]

Sterling is more consistent than Coutinho

 

[Xaviesta]

Vietto should be there too. I would say even Dybala.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

you butthurt over Iran's nuclear deal, republican scumbag!!!

If we consider Brazil, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Argentina, and maybe England top nations in football ... all of them except Germany and Spain failed to produce as many top stars as the did in 1990s ... that's a fact soldier.

I cannot agree at all about France, especially if we're talking about the 2010s. They are producing young talent at an astronomical rate. Argentina also cannot be on that list considering how many of their players break out early in their domestic league, and the quality of player they produced in the 90s (not great). Most of their national team is in their mid-late 20s right now and broke through early. I think Holland and England have had no change. So really we're just left with Brazil, Italy, and Portugal, who are balanced out by Germany and Spain (not to mention emerging football nations who produce a lot better players now than 20 years ago).

 

[Filipower]

What difference is there between Portugal now and in the 1990s though? For each Figo, Paulo Sousa and Rui Costa you have a Ronaldo, Moutinho or Coentrão just off the top of my head. It's not like in the 1990s Portugal was just pouring out young talent.