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Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004
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Look Moron
the debate is here: if you have supporters there that may agree with you bring them here, atleast they will be heard here, which is more than can be said for the rest of us. No one here wants to start a stupid debate somewhere else, you started it here Moron so you finish it here.
Im left by my definition not yours Moron, i dont care for yours or anyone elses. Im political in what i think is important, right or unjust.
Also why are you so adament about this debate - your the only one debating the rest of us are agreeing.
I guess this is wasted breath, you think Stalin was this perfect hero who did everything right for his country. But then again some people in America think Charlie Manson is an alright dude. None of us are going to change what you think (and infact many here dont care what you think and im begining to join them).
When i first started discussing and debating politics here 2 odd years ago you here as well. Some parts of your arguements i agreed with (mostly the ones that i could understand or the ones that were plausable) but most of the time you wrote incoherent **** that really wasnt worth reading or wasting 5 seconds of our boring lives to read.
But recently from what ive seen from your comments and reactions is that your confused about your own beliefs (and your begining to doubt your own thoughts on Stalin and Communism) and that you want to see if the people you listen too *(that forum) are wrong like you as well.
the debate is here: if you have supporters there that may agree with you bring them here, atleast they will be heard here, which is more than can be said for the rest of us. No one here wants to start a stupid debate somewhere else, you started it here Moron so you finish it here.
Im left by my definition not yours Moron, i dont care for yours or anyone elses. Im political in what i think is important, right or unjust.
Also why are you so adament about this debate - your the only one debating the rest of us are agreeing.
I guess this is wasted breath, you think Stalin was this perfect hero who did everything right for his country. But then again some people in America think Charlie Manson is an alright dude. None of us are going to change what you think (and infact many here dont care what you think and im begining to join them).
When i first started discussing and debating politics here 2 odd years ago you here as well. Some parts of your arguements i agreed with (mostly the ones that i could understand or the ones that were plausable) but most of the time you wrote incoherent **** that really wasnt worth reading or wasting 5 seconds of our boring lives to read.
But recently from what ive seen from your comments and reactions is that your confused about your own beliefs (and your begining to doubt your own thoughts on Stalin and Communism) and that you want to see if the people you listen too *(that forum) are wrong like you as well.
On that board there are also Fascists and other rightists, and they express their views in there (if you looked into the forum). You either go to ernesto-guevara.com and debate or admit you are wrong.
2 choices. is that too many for you?
And Zul-Aid same applies for you. You will be heard there. Maus and several others would side with you if you went to e-g.com.
And Zul-Aid you're wrong, from the **** i've read from other members in here has reaffirmed my communist beliefs.
lmao!
You come on the board abusing people against the war in Iraq and raving about illegal immigrants, and now you want to be taken seriously as a 'libertarian' with the views above!
hahaha! made my day
Anyway, I was pointing out the freerepublic rules as another example alongside the guevara ones. Catch up dude catch up.
Originally posted by rhizome17
lmao!
You come on the board abusing people against the war in Iraq and raving about illegal immigrants, and now you want to be taken seriously as a 'libertarian' with the views above!
hahaha! made my day
Anyway, I was pointing out the freerepublic rules as another example alongside the guevara ones. Catch up dude catch up.
I forgot that people aren't allowed to make their own decisions about different political issues... i must blindly follow the party I support on all issues. Thanks for reminding me lefty bed wetter.
pennington10
Senior Squad
Originally posted by Moron
On that board there are also Fascists and other rightists, and they express their views in there (if you looked into the forum). You either go to ernesto-guevara.com and debate or admit you are wrong.
2 choices. is that too many for you?
And Zul-Aid same applies for you. You will be heard there. Maus and several others would side with you if you went to e-g.com.
And Zul-Aid you're wrong, from the **** i've read from other members in here has reaffirmed my communist beliefs.
50 plus years of facts say that I am right and you wrong. I don't need the headache of people making up random events that never happened to support their beliefs of a paranoid tryant.
It is clear you just have no value for human life if it doesn't think the same as you which has been made clear in most of your post. You probably support the bubonic plauge if it were communist and then you would make up a bunch of lame excuses like Europe had too many people anyway the plauge was just cleaning house and those people were going to die anyway.
I have a feeling that either you are just an ignorant **** who thinks it is okay for people to kill their way to the top or you don't really believe in most of this. You just enjoy going against the grain and being "different". You just want to be noticed and a whore for attention so you do it by making up stuff and supporting this crap just because you want people to take notice. Either way one day you will grow up and realize how nice you really have it. We all have the phase of we hate everything ect. ect. and we grow up from up. Why do you think most people that believe in Communism in non poor countries are students? Because you just want to rebel and are willing to support anything to do it.
I feel sorry for you. I just found out the truth about Stalin, and it makes me sick the **** you guys posted. I have hard evidence about Stalin, but I rather not share it with you guys because your all brainwashed to what you learn from history books. But the truth just emerged, and if you want to debate and find out, GET YOUR BUTT on Ernesto-guevara.com
xxxFLYERxxx
Starting XI
The person who wrote that is a:
Member of the
Communist Party Marxist-Leninist Revolutionaries
hahaha, get a clue.
And i stopped reading after i read "The Ukraine". Its not "The" Ukraine. Do you say "The France" or "The Spain"?
all bull****.
I knew it
Plus I won't believe the **** from that documentary. Plus its a Western nation that sponsers the documentary. So thats enough propaganda to leave it.
so what, we call U.S.A "THE" United States.
Plus Ukraine means Borderland, so I don't see the problem using "The" for Ukraine. Heck even my history teacher calls it the Ukraine.
"When Reagan was elected to the US Presidency and began his 1980s anti-communist crusade, propaganda about the millions who died in the Ukraine was again revived. In 1984 a Harvard professor published a book called 'Human Life in Russia' which repeated all the false information produced by the Hearst press in 1934. In 1984, then, we were finding Nazi lies and falsifications dating from the 1930s being revived, but this time under the respectable cloak of an American university. But this was not the end of it. In 1986 yet another book appeared on the subject, entitled 'Harvest of Sorrow', written by a former member of the British secret service, Robert Conquest, now a professor at Stamford University in California. For his 'work' on the book, Conquest received $80,000 from the Ukraine National Organization. This same organisation also paid for a film made in 1986 called 'Harvest of Despair ', in which, inter alia, material from Conquest's book was used. By this time the number of people it was alleged in the US had lost their lives in the Ukraine through starvation had been upped to 15 million!"
xxxFLYERxxx
Starting XI
Originally posted by Moron
Plus Ukraine means Borderland, so I don't see the problem using "The" for Ukraine. Heck even my history teacher calls it the Ukraine.
Your history teacher? Oh he must be right then.
Its Ukraine. Anyone who says "The Ukraine" is wrong.
Originally posted by Moron
"When Reagan was elected to the US Presidency and began his 1980s anti-communist crusade, propaganda about the millions who died in the Ukraine was again revived. In 1984 a Harvard professor published a book called 'Human Life in Russia' which repeated all the false information produced by the Hearst press in 1934. In 1984, then, we were finding Nazi lies and falsifications dating from the 1930s being revived, but this time under the respectable cloak of an American university. But this was not the end of it. In 1986 yet another book appeared on the subject, entitled 'Harvest of Sorrow', written by a former member of the British secret service, Robert Conquest, now a professor at Stamford University in California. For his 'work' on the book, Conquest received $80,000 from the Ukraine National Organization. This same organisation also paid for a film made in 1986 called 'Harvest of Despair ', in which, inter alia, material from Conquest's book was used. By this time the number of people it was alleged in the US had lost their lives in the Ukraine through starvation had been upped to 15 million!"
I've talked to real living people who lived in "the" Ukraine and in "the" Russia who can tell you horror stories...
Keep living in your fantasy world Moron.
I should know what communism is as i lived in Yugoslavia in the 1980's
i think that model was a right model.
Oh by the way Ukraine can have "The" affixiated at the front of Ukraine. Just like Belerus means "White Russia"
Moron i understand some of your views of Soviet socialism is quite not on the mark but not entirely wrong though. But saying Stalin was a hero is wrong. He did industrialise the nation buthe was a brutal killer.
i think that model was a right model.
Oh by the way Ukraine can have "The" affixiated at the front of Ukraine. Just like Belerus means "White Russia"
Moron i understand some of your views of Soviet socialism is quite not on the mark but not entirely wrong though. But saying Stalin was a hero is wrong. He did industrialise the nation buthe was a brutal killer.