bybuti;2850465 said:
He was in charge of Barça B when they were way down on the table (near relegation zone). At the end of the season, Barça B celebrated the championship.
Barca B had a lot of talented players TBH... Still a great achievement though. I'd love to see him do that with a La Liga team though.
bybuti;2850465 said:
Man, I said it and I'll say it again.
It's not alright to compare a coach with only 2 years experience with others with 30 years of experience.
Agreed.
bybuti;2850465 said:
But, also, it's not alright, actually it's madness, to say that Pep Guardiola was just a toy in Barça's dressing room.
But, if you come to a point when you don't rate him at all. Then look what he has achieved.
I only compare Pep with others when others thing that Pep had done nothing so far.
I never said that he's a "toy" or something. I was actually impressed by his first season. But as I said before, I'd love to see him face tough challenges. So far he hasn't had to deal with any.
bybuti;2850465 said:
My point about the smarter one was only about 'the injured players'. That's it.
Pep made a smarter decision than SAF and Wenger.
As has been said before, United are toothless without Rooney. Have you seen the United Chelsea game? I think this guy would explain it better than me, so I'll just quote him:
Help?;2850376 said:
Tell me this then. How much of a choice did Ferguson have compared to Pep? Does United have another Messi that can score goals like that? After being proven by Chelsea that we are toothless in attack without Rooney, it was either risk him and know with certainty that you can score any moment or not risk Rooney and not know whether you'll be able to even have a single decent shot in the whole game? The reasoning is just stupid man, United squad is not Barcelona squad.
bybuti;2850465 said:
Play Berbatov. Play Macheda.
Simply put, Berbatov is a United flop. He's a great player but doesn't fit United's game. Macheda? He's 18 something with NO experience in the UCL... And he's been back from injury as well. I'm sure he would do a better job than Berbatov, but he's still a naive and inexperienced player. He needs 2-3 more years before he can play in the first team.
bybuti;2850465 said:
Play a B-team guy.
Pep, this inexperienced coach, has done it. And it worked.
Unfortunately Fergie doesn't have young talents in reserves team who could be up to this game. As I said before, United is not Barca. We are not gifted with talented players from our reserves team. Talents have been scarce throughout england since years... What we've got from the academy for the past 10 years is O'Shea and Fletcher. England doesn't produce as much talent as Spain. the reason why teams like Arsenal have exclusively foreign players.
bybuti;2850465 said:
You can't risk someones career for only a match.
risk his career? Are you serious? It was definitely not a risk to his carreer lol. To start with, it was just a mere "ankle sprain". Not a fracture or tendonitis or anything like that. It wasn't s serious injury. Besides, the physios said he could play and Rooney himself was ready for it... Its definitely not "risking his carreer" lol.
bybuti;2850465 said:
We come again at a point on which we don't agree.
Barça has the talent? So what? Rijkaard also had the talent, but he failed for 2 years in a row. Rijkaard is my idol btw.
Yeah but at the time Guardiola came, these same players were emerging as the best players in the world... During Rijkaard's time, they were still developing. + during his time, many players were unsettled etc. Guardiola trimmed the squad and added some new faces. Credits to him for doing that, but the facts remain that he had a team full of talents to start with.
bybuti;2850465 said:
"That loss had nothing to do with Rooney on."
"In fact, we played our best football scoring 3-0 with Rooney on."
This two don't go together. Anyhow, I don't doubt SAF's tactical abilities. You could have still play that 'best football' even without Rooney.
Have you seen the United Chelsea game? With Carrick, Fletcher, Scholes etc, where did you expect the goals to come from? Out of nowhere? I don't think we'd be able to play like that with Berbatov instead of Rooney. The reason why Rooney was brought in was tactical. He didn't do much, but the focus was on him everytime leaving others free. Berbatov would've slowed our game as he always does. And if you noticed, we played a very high tempo game in the first half. Berbatov is not suitable for that.
bybuti;2850465 said:
For instance, we had a game 'to be or not to be' against Inter in the group stage. Neither Ibra nor Messi were 100% fit, so they were sit on bench. And we did play one of the best games of the season that night.
Barcelona has enough players to make up for the absence of Zlatan or Messi... Whereas United don't... Its sad but its the truth. Barca is a lot better team in terms of quality and depth. United's squad is not Barca's squad.
Vedran-10;2850650 said:
Pep is the perfect manager for Barcelona right now. He won the Treble in his debut season. Now, it's true we've had an amazing squad since 2004, but you still have to be a proper manager to pull off a Treble. In your first try. Playing probably the best footy the world has ever seen along the way.
Pep may not be the world's best manager (lets wait and talk in about a decade), but he suits Barcelona and he is extremely successful. Having in mind everything the guy's achieved (and stands to achieve), to still try and argue that he somehow lacks managerial ability... it defies reason.
Very well put. Agreed. He definitely has the potential to become one of the most decorated manager. In fact he has won it all already in 1 season. But I'd like to see him face more challenges... So far he hasn't had to deal with a lot of difficulties... For e.g he hasn't had to deal with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Zlatan, Alves being out injured or something like that.
Arnau;2850553 said:
go hell everyone of you, screw the alcoholic fergie, the pedophile wenger, and the faggot guardiola. Madrid VS Barça, nothing else cares.
Best post of this thread
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Anyways on topic, I'm gonna look for a stream right now
Can't wait.