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The MLS Thread
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FKPartizan
Reserve Team
from what I hear it seems that they will expand to two of these three cities; san diego, oklahoma city, or cleveland.
Lonestarr022
Starting XI
yea im not holding any breath on that one
::shinji::
Min
I sure hope it's Tulsa and San Diego cause Cleveland is sh!te.. btw, anyone catch the MetroStars vs. Revs match the other day? Very enjoyable game, lots of attractive footy being played
USA Supporter
Reserve Team
Cleveland isn't getting a team. The man who wanted to bring a team to Cleveland died so they are no longer a contender to get a team in 2005.
FKPartizan
Reserve Team
I know someone died, but it's a good thing, lol. it would really suck to put a team in "the mistake by the lake"
Rochester Rhino
Manager
This is a story from m y local newspaper today.
MLS chatter buzzing about Rhinos again
Team has no comment on report league eyes Rochester
By JEFF DIVERONICA
Staff writer
(June 29, 2004) — The MLS tease is on again for Rochester soccer fans, but Rhinos owners remain reluctant to reveal information about their discussions with America’s top league.
Street & Smith’s SportsBusiness Journal reported on Monday that Major League Soccer would relocate its franchises in San Jose, Calif., and Kansas City and add two expansion teams in 2005, according to three “high-ranking sources in U.S. Soccer and MLS.”
Rhinos owner Frank DuRoss said his ownership group’s talks with MLS have “focused on expansion, not relocation, but we’d look at all opportunities that arise.”
When asked specifically whether the Rhinos have discussed relocation of an existing MLS franchise to Rochester, DuRoss said, “We’re not going to make any comments on private discussions with MLS.”
MLS Commissioner Don Garber could not be reached for comment, but the SportsBusiness Journal quoted him as saying, “(Rochester) is a market we believe will be in MLS, and it is not if but when.”
To date, those are Garber’s most encouraging words about Rochester. The Rhinos have averaged close to 10,000 fans the past few seasons and have long been on MLS’ radar screen. But Garber has said bringing an MLS franchise to Rochester hinges on the Rhinos having their own stadium.
Major work has yet to begin on PAETEC Park, the Rhinos’ $22 million downtown stadium, but DuRoss maintains the project will be ready by the start of the 2005 season, even if the Rhinos have to push their home opener into June.
They have played for eight-plus seasons at Frontier Field, which has a dirt infield for baseball. The MLS frowns on that and wouldn’t put a team here that played at Frontier.
”We’ve known all along that we’ve had some very encouraging talks (with MLS). We’ve been quiet about things,’ said Rhinos general manager Chris Economides. “Obviously, there’s no done deal, but to hear Commissioner Garber’s comments, it’s what we’ve strived for all along.”
SportsBusiness Journal reported MLS expects to make an expansion announcement in mid-July. The report said one of the two 2005 MLS expansion teams will be Chivas USA, a sister club of the Guadalajara, Mexico-based Chivas team. That MLS squad will play in Carson City, Calif., and share the Home Depot Center stadium with the Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS).
The other potential homes for MLS teams in the near future, whether by expansion or relocation, still seem up for grabs. Possible cities include Seattle, Houston, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Cleveland, Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
SportsBusiness Journal listed Rochester as a candidate but said its “problems” include too many Rhinos player salaries that “pay more than MLS is prepared to commit to.” Economides said that is not the case and believed a jump to MLS would void current contracts.
The relocation rumor has been just that — speculation league officials won’t confirm — but attendance has lagged in Kansas City (12,345 average) and San Jose (10,969). Kansas City is one of two MLS teams, along with one in Dallas, owned by The Hunt Sports Group, headed by Lamar Hunt, one of the founders of the North American Soccer League in which the Rochester Lancers played.
Although Dallas ranks last in the 10-team MLS with an average attendance of 8,943, there are plans to build a stadium in Texas, where Lamar Hunt lives.
DuRoss met with Clark Hunt, Lamar’s son and director of the group, in October 2002 at the MLS championship game. He also has spoken with Lamar Hunt directly, but he insisted in 2002 they spoke only about PAETEC Park, not MLS expansion or relocation. DuRoss said he has not spoken with Garber or the Hunts recently.
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What's at stake
A spot in Major League Soccer. By mid-July, MLS expects to announce two expansion teams for the 2005 season. One is Chivas USA, but Rochester could be a candidate for the second. It also could be a candidate to land an existing MLS team that is relocated. MLS Commissioner Don Garber was quoted in Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal saying, "Rochester is a market we believe will be in MLS, and it is not if but when."
MLS chatter buzzing about Rhinos again
Team has no comment on report league eyes Rochester
By JEFF DIVERONICA
Staff writer
(June 29, 2004) — The MLS tease is on again for Rochester soccer fans, but Rhinos owners remain reluctant to reveal information about their discussions with America’s top league.
Street & Smith’s SportsBusiness Journal reported on Monday that Major League Soccer would relocate its franchises in San Jose, Calif., and Kansas City and add two expansion teams in 2005, according to three “high-ranking sources in U.S. Soccer and MLS.”
Rhinos owner Frank DuRoss said his ownership group’s talks with MLS have “focused on expansion, not relocation, but we’d look at all opportunities that arise.”
When asked specifically whether the Rhinos have discussed relocation of an existing MLS franchise to Rochester, DuRoss said, “We’re not going to make any comments on private discussions with MLS.”
MLS Commissioner Don Garber could not be reached for comment, but the SportsBusiness Journal quoted him as saying, “(Rochester) is a market we believe will be in MLS, and it is not if but when.”
To date, those are Garber’s most encouraging words about Rochester. The Rhinos have averaged close to 10,000 fans the past few seasons and have long been on MLS’ radar screen. But Garber has said bringing an MLS franchise to Rochester hinges on the Rhinos having their own stadium.
Major work has yet to begin on PAETEC Park, the Rhinos’ $22 million downtown stadium, but DuRoss maintains the project will be ready by the start of the 2005 season, even if the Rhinos have to push their home opener into June.
They have played for eight-plus seasons at Frontier Field, which has a dirt infield for baseball. The MLS frowns on that and wouldn’t put a team here that played at Frontier.
”We’ve known all along that we’ve had some very encouraging talks (with MLS). We’ve been quiet about things,’ said Rhinos general manager Chris Economides. “Obviously, there’s no done deal, but to hear Commissioner Garber’s comments, it’s what we’ve strived for all along.”
SportsBusiness Journal reported MLS expects to make an expansion announcement in mid-July. The report said one of the two 2005 MLS expansion teams will be Chivas USA, a sister club of the Guadalajara, Mexico-based Chivas team. That MLS squad will play in Carson City, Calif., and share the Home Depot Center stadium with the Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS).
The other potential homes for MLS teams in the near future, whether by expansion or relocation, still seem up for grabs. Possible cities include Seattle, Houston, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Cleveland, Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
SportsBusiness Journal listed Rochester as a candidate but said its “problems” include too many Rhinos player salaries that “pay more than MLS is prepared to commit to.” Economides said that is not the case and believed a jump to MLS would void current contracts.
The relocation rumor has been just that — speculation league officials won’t confirm — but attendance has lagged in Kansas City (12,345 average) and San Jose (10,969). Kansas City is one of two MLS teams, along with one in Dallas, owned by The Hunt Sports Group, headed by Lamar Hunt, one of the founders of the North American Soccer League in which the Rochester Lancers played.
Although Dallas ranks last in the 10-team MLS with an average attendance of 8,943, there are plans to build a stadium in Texas, where Lamar Hunt lives.
DuRoss met with Clark Hunt, Lamar’s son and director of the group, in October 2002 at the MLS championship game. He also has spoken with Lamar Hunt directly, but he insisted in 2002 they spoke only about PAETEC Park, not MLS expansion or relocation. DuRoss said he has not spoken with Garber or the Hunts recently.
[email protected]
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What's at stake
A spot in Major League Soccer. By mid-July, MLS expects to announce two expansion teams for the 2005 season. One is Chivas USA, but Rochester could be a candidate for the second. It also could be a candidate to land an existing MLS team that is relocated. MLS Commissioner Don Garber was quoted in Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal saying, "Rochester is a market we believe will be in MLS, and it is not if but when."
That's the first time that I have heard that MLS was looking into moving franchises, namely the San Jose and Kansas City ones. And I would like to say: LOAD UP THE MOVING VANS. If I'm not mistaken, San Jose has sucked at the gate, and not even winning 2 MLS Cups in the past 3 years has done anything to remedy the situation. As for Kansas City, the less said the better.
But the really shocking news here is that they didn't consider New England as a candidate for relocation. The Krafts seem to have given up on them, and there is hardly any promotion for the team. In fact, the only ad that I have seen for the club all year was a quarter page one buried deep inside Patriots Football Weekly, the newspaper for the NFL team which they own. Also, I wouldn't be suprised that by the year 2010, the Revs will be the only MLS club without their own soccer specific stadium. Lastly, if you thought that the Metros perpetual 60 to 90 day wait for a new stadium announcement was comical, we as Revs fans can't even buy a replica shirt, and it wouldn't suprise me if they never arrived from the manufacturer.
But the really shocking news here is that they didn't consider New England as a candidate for relocation. The Krafts seem to have given up on them, and there is hardly any promotion for the team. In fact, the only ad that I have seen for the club all year was a quarter page one buried deep inside Patriots Football Weekly, the newspaper for the NFL team which they own. Also, I wouldn't be suprised that by the year 2010, the Revs will be the only MLS club without their own soccer specific stadium. Lastly, if you thought that the Metros perpetual 60 to 90 day wait for a new stadium announcement was comical, we as Revs fans can't even buy a replica shirt, and it wouldn't suprise me if they never arrived from the manufacturer.
Rochester Rhino
Manager
Man in Rochester the Rhinos get tone of coverage in the newspaper, there is even a weekly show about the rhinos on tv.
pennington10
Senior Squad
The thing about San Jose is that they have alot of good fans it is just no one wants to go to the Spartan dump. They could play the game on some field in Hayward at the games would get better attendence. San Jose is a fairly good sports town. Look at how they have taken to the Sharks. The Sharks do very well putting people in the seats for a sport that isn't the most popular in the world right now. I say give the 'Quakes a new home and the attendence will dramatically improve.
FuriousGeorge
Reserve Team
I f we had a real league they could just work for promotion to the top.... But NOOOO... we get McSoccer style franchises.
I'm opposed to MLS relocating teams. I don't think it will happen though (it hasn't happened yet in 9 years of MLS).
Earthquakes - you can't relocate a team that has won two championships in three years, it's just not right
Wizards - have the best stadium deal out of any MLS team with a non-soccer-specific stadium; thanks to the fact that Lamar Hunt owns the Kansas City Chiefs the Wizards play at Arrowhead almost for free (that might be the only reason the team still exists - their attendance is always among the worst in the league while their ticket prices are always the lowest. Wizards tickets cost about as much as Rhinos tickets, and the Rhinos play on a frickin' baseball field.)
Here's what I think will happen with expansion:
2005 - LA Chivas and Salt Lake City Mormonzz
2006 - Houston Club America USA (redundant?) and Seattle Sounders
2008 - Rochester Rhinos and San Antonio Hotspur (that would create some confusion, wouldn't it?)
2010 - Montreal ???, Philadelphia Alternative Life Choice
Earthquakes - you can't relocate a team that has won two championships in three years, it's just not right
Wizards - have the best stadium deal out of any MLS team with a non-soccer-specific stadium; thanks to the fact that Lamar Hunt owns the Kansas City Chiefs the Wizards play at Arrowhead almost for free (that might be the only reason the team still exists - their attendance is always among the worst in the league while their ticket prices are always the lowest. Wizards tickets cost about as much as Rhinos tickets, and the Rhinos play on a frickin' baseball field.)
Here's what I think will happen with expansion:
2005 - LA Chivas and Salt Lake City Mormonzz
2006 - Houston Club America USA (redundant?) and Seattle Sounders
2008 - Rochester Rhinos and San Antonio Hotspur (that would create some confusion, wouldn't it?)
2010 - Montreal ???, Philadelphia Alternative Life Choice
