+ The Portuguese Liga Thread +

[hoseth0711]

oh portugal your language its so fantastic. oh yeah i know it.... lets talk about FOOTBALL. its a great idea i like it im really like it

 

[Tiago_10]

I talk when I want, and don't care what you think about it. You must be blind, though, or absent when the whole Apito Dourado incident started a couple years ago.

Of course, any member in any forum can post whenever they want, where they want, you know that's not what I meant. When it all started I was not the one denying it.

This is match fixing, this is harming the spor, any way you look at it.
The context of the conversation between Vieira and Valentim was simple: they were choosing which ref should go to that match.

If chosing refs was a standard practice for top clubs then it means there are more guilty parties, not less. Vieria isn't less guilty because of it.

Yes, apparently it was a current pratice between every club in Taça matches.. First, it was Valentim calling LFV because he was angry as he didn't want the other ref that had an agreedment with Porto. He wanted a unbiased ref, unlike Pdc that wanted one to harm Benfica. He's guilty too because of that, and I agree when you say all of the "dirigentes" should exit football.

That said, I don't think there's no point for us to continue discussing this here. We know that's not gonna happen so soon..

 

[Virgo]

...and this f#cking saga continues

http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1269681&idCanal=95

it's not match fixing, match fixing is influencing the ref's work by threatning or handing him gifts (like prostitutes you know) but for f*ck sake this practice has to stop. Just bring back the f*cking draw.

If LFV confirmed the news is true why haven't Valentim and Pinto de Sousa resigned already?

oh by the way, the Belenenses president in 2003/2004 has already confirmed he was contacted by Pinto de Sousa in the same moulds as was LFV.

 

[Johnny_Big]

É o sistema :fool:

 

[RuiCosta_10]

O presidente do Vitória de Setúbal, Jorge Santana, confirmou as declarações de Luís Filipe Vieira sobre a consulta feita pela Federação Portuguesa de Futebol, aos emblemas envolvidos nos últimos jogos da Taça de Portugal, sobre os árbitros nomeados para os respectivos encontros.

“Parece-me ser normal a Federação consultar os clubes envolvidos nas meias-finais e final da Taça. Porém, o Vitória, no seu ‘low-profile’, não discute muito essas matérias. Mas, pelo que me apercebi, parece ser um hábito generalizado”, afirmou o líder sadino.

O dirigente vai ainda mais longe nas suas afirmações: “O Vitória acredita no trabalho de qualquer equipa de arbitragem. É nossa norma confiar na isenção e no rigor de qualquer árbitro, independentemente do nome.”

Autor: MANUEL VARELA
Data: Sabado, 9 Setembro de 2006 - 03:56

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Also, like Virgo said, the Belenenses president confirmed he was also contacted... Although it's a bullsh*t procedure to make things, it's the way they do, nothing un-normal(exists?)... And like LFV says, maybe with this new, it's time to change the way they do this things.

AGAIN, i repeat, i didn't liked to see this new, and i'm in some way disapointed with this, but this is nothing compared to what the other dirigentes actually did. I still have hope LFV together with more people can clean the **** out of Portuguese football, but just hope, not to confident on it...

 

[Virgo]

Gil Vicente pode acabar
A divulgação oficial da decisão da reunião de ontem à noite só hoje vai ser conhecida, mas Fiúza parece disposto em terminar com o futebol profissional
MELO ROSA/PEDRO ROCHA/MÁRIO VIEIRA


Ainda não é oficial, nem passa, para já de uma proposta. Pelo menos ontem ainda não passava de uma hipótese, forte, levantada pelo presidente António Fiúza. O Gil Vicente pode optar por acabar com o futebol profissional, ficando depois reservada a competição para os mais novos. Há também a possibilidade de os sócios se pronunciarem, dentro de duas semanas, sobre esta posição da Direcção.

Na reunião de ontem à noite, na qual participaram todos os advogados que assistem o Gil Vicente neste processo, a Direcção e o presidente da Assembleia Geral, João Trigueiros, António Fiúza foi bem claro: a solução mais credível é acabar com o futebol profissional. "Os gastos são muitos, não temos grandes condições e, por isso, o futebol profissional pode desaparecer", disse a O JOGO o presidente do Gil Vicente ao fim da tarde, quando esta hipótese ainda estava a ser equacionada.

A esta posição, junta-se uma outra: não participar no jogo de amanhã com o Feirense e faltar igualmente ao jogo da terceira jornada no Estoril, pertencendo a decisão final aos sócios numa Assembleia Geral que terá lugar a seguir a este encontro. Qualquer uma destas posições não implica que a luta tenha terminado para os gilistas. Uma vez que o Tribunal Administrativo e Fiscal não deu razão ao Gil Vicente, a ideia agora é, conforme ficou expressa na concorrida Assembleia Geral de anteontem, avançar com um recurso aos tribunais europeus. Estas eram, inicialmente, as ideias de António Fiúza, sendo de salvaguardar a possibilidade de, durante a reunião secreta e fora da cidade, ter sido aconselhado noutro sentido.



this is what Gil Vicente will get.

 

[INFESTA]

Of course, any member in any forum can post whenever they want, where they want, you know that's not what I meant. When it all started I was not the one denying it.

It's stupid to draw conclusions based on allegations. I don't confirm anything nor do I deny it. I always said that if all this was true then blablabla.

In my view, the point of today's 'O Publico' news is that PdC is under investigation for the exact same reasons LFV isn't. Anyone else got that idea after reading the article?

 

[darth vader]

Gil Vicente pode acabar
A divulgação oficial da decisão da reunião de ontem à noite só hoje vai ser conhecida, mas Fiúza parece disposto em terminar com o futebol profissional
MELO ROSA/PEDRO ROCHA/MÁRIO VIEIRA


Ainda não é oficial, nem passa, para já de uma proposta. Pelo menos ontem ainda não passava de uma hipótese, forte, levantada pelo presidente António Fiúza. O Gil Vicente pode optar por acabar com o futebol profissional, ficando depois reservada a competição para os mais novos. Há também a possibilidade de os sócios se pronunciarem, dentro de duas semanas, sobre esta posição da Direcção.

Na reunião de ontem à noite, na qual participaram todos os advogados que assistem o Gil Vicente neste processo, a Direcção e o presidente da Assembleia Geral, João Trigueiros, António Fiúza foi bem claro: a solução mais credível é acabar com o futebol profissional. "Os gastos são muitos, não temos grandes condições e, por isso, o futebol profissional pode desaparecer", disse a O JOGO o presidente do Gil Vicente ao fim da tarde, quando esta hipótese ainda estava a ser equacionada.

A esta posição, junta-se uma outra: não participar no jogo de amanhã com o Feirense e faltar igualmente ao jogo da terceira jornada no Estoril, pertencendo a decisão final aos sócios numa Assembleia Geral que terá lugar a seguir a este encontro. Qualquer uma destas posições não implica que a luta tenha terminado para os gilistas. Uma vez que o Tribunal Administrativo e Fiscal não deu razão ao Gil Vicente, a ideia agora é, conforme ficou expressa na concorrida Assembleia Geral de anteontem, avançar com um recurso aos tribunais europeus. Estas eram, inicialmente, as ideias de António Fiúza, sendo de salvaguardar a possibilidade de, durante a reunião secreta e fora da cidade, ter sido aconselhado noutro sentido.



this is what Gil Vicente will get.

if GV ends, it would sound like some kind of suicide
it's really sad that a club with a lot of fans can end because of beeing hold by fiuza's idiots band. and it would be equally tragic if the fans, i mean the "socios" continue to support fiuza like blind sheep.

 

[bmpv666]

precisely what i thought after reading it...
about LFV i can only say: Quem tem telhados de vidro...
it's about time for all the "podres" from our football to be eliminated, let's see if that's what is going to happen in the end

 

[Virgo]

precisely what i thought after reading it...
about LFV i can only say: Quem tem telhados de vidro...
it's about time for all the "podres" from our football to be eliminated, let's see if that's what is going to happen in the end

so are you suggesting as he was involved in this (as any other club president or representative) he should shut up about any information about corruption he may have?

right

 

[Goo Goo boy]

Man, three pages about refs and corruption






Zzzzz.



fokes, I wish you were different

 

[MaSsiVe]

oh portugal your language its so fantastic. oh yeah i know it.... lets talk about FOOTBALL. its a great idea i like it im really like it

dude I wanna smoke what you're smoking

if GV ends, it would sound like some kind of suicide
it's really sad that a club with a lot of fans can end because of beeing hold by fiuza's idiots band. and it would be equally tragic if the fans, i mean the "socios" continue to support fiuza like blind sheep.

I wish they drown in their own misery.

 

[MaSsiVe]

what an awesome match by Boavista so far, very impressed especially by Linz and Grzelak (sp?) but the whole team played very well throughout the whole match.

Boavista 3-0 Benfica FT

Funky must be going wild, congrats to him for the fully deserved win


and João Ferreira steals the show in the dying minutes! :funny:

 

[Goo Goo boy]

Glad to see Boavista back on top

 

[Johnny_Big]

That Linz is awesome. And the goal by Gaz is fantastic, just as good as Nani's one.

Let's start the bets. How many suspension games do you give to Petit?

 

[Paulo Da Silva]

did Benfica have one chance at all to score? Like wow it was a horrible performance. Linz looks like a player to look at, same with Kaz and Grzelak. Great unknown signings so far

 

[Virgo]

What an embarassment.

3 - 0, not one chance created, the team captains Nuno Gomes and Petit acting like complete twats. No discipline whatsoever

F.Santos won't last till christmas


btw Manu's sending off is utterly retarded, Manu didn't even touch him. Ricardo Silva should have been sent off, not that it mattered anyway.

 

[Tiago_10]

I surely hope he doesn't. There was no tactic, the players didn't know what to do, everyone playing slowing as if they didn't want to win, except Kikin, he actually showed he wanted to win, if only the others would do the same.. It's better not to show up next time if they don't feel like playing.

Man, FS has no control at all in the dressing room.

yeah, I agree, it really wouldn't have made much difference but Gomes was rightly sent off and there was no reason for R. Silva not to be as well.

 

[darth vader]

That Linz is awesome. And the goal by Gaz is fantastic, just as good as Nani's one.

Let's start the bets. How many suspension games do you give to Petit?

i bet he'll get only 2 suspension games. but he surely deserves more. but i still bet in 2 games because of in similar cases the players rarely get an heavy suspension.

 

[Paulo Da Silva]

oh yeah Silva should have been red carded, i agree. But lets see how much games Petit will get. 3 the minimum. What a retard. He does what he does, gets red carded, then whines and cries abot how he did nothing. what a retard. And t be honest what did Manu do for a straight red card?