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+ The Portuguese Liga Thread +

Vinnie Jones

Senior Squad
Hah i can feel the tension. First, because the majority of ppl in Coimbra support Benfica besides Académica. Second there is always alot of Porto supporters in the "Municipal" because Coimbra is one hour away from Porto in a "Pendular" and two hours in a "regional", it´s pretty close. I think it will be 50/50 just like in the portuguese cup final. The atmosphere is always pretty eletrical in the Coimbra matches. I definitely wont miss this game.
 

Paulo Da Silva

Starting XI
we hardly have enough players for a starting 11.

the least FPF can do is postpone the game till after the ******* olympics. This is pure bull****, Benfica lose 2-3 players we lose 10+ players.

the funny thing is that if Benfica win they will think theydeserved it and are the better team.

i expect Benfica to win by 2 or 3

players that are eligible

Baia
Nuno
Areias
Valente
Rossato
Pedro Emmanuel
Maniche
Diego
Carlos Alberto
Quaresma
Maciel
Cesar Peixoto
Derlei
Benni
Jankauskas
Costinha

My Starting Line-up

============Baia================
=======Areias=====P.Emanuel=======
Rossato====================Valente
===========Costinha==============
=====Maniche====================
=================Diego==========
Quarema=====================Derlei
============Benni================

actually i think we still do stand a chance, it will be a close game :rockman:
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
i expect Benfica to win by 2 or 3

Don't try to make the game easy for us... and then if u win u're saying...

"HAHAHA Even with the "B" team we win you.. HAHAHA"

"U guys were thinking it will be easy for you.. take it HAHHAHA"


It won't be easy for nobody... It will be a good game for shure.. and both teams will have the same chance to win the game.

50-50.
 

INFESTA

Official
Well, I didn't get a chance to post on the game vs Iraq, so here it is.


How can we be unhappy at our Olympic team's behaviour?

The triumph of this group of arrogant lads and their respective coaches would be the triumph of the mediocrity.
It all starts on the supposed leader of the group: the head coach. Romão is the second-worse coach ever to enter a football pitch (right after Octávio Machado), and I'm not even getting into the tactics!


The Romão factor

It's incredible how much this little man hurt our NT and its young players. After a great win in France, these kids decided to torn apart the dressing-room, destroying the ceiling and breaking several stuff - and all that WHILE Romão was with them on that very same room! Such a barbaric act, which shows lack of maturity, education, elevation and sportsmanship should have been delt with maximum care. I mean, when my dog sh!ts on the rug, I give him a little slap right after; that way, he makes the following association: sh!tting on the couch=BAD.
Our terrific coach thought otherwise, and decided to excuse his players, saying they were simply ''jumping around and broke the ceiling unintentionally''. [Yes, he is THAT pathetic...]
Of course, this attitude worked well on our player's psyche: breaking stuff+being dumbasses+immaturity+while representing the country=OK.

By this point, everything is excusable. All attitudes are okay, because you're young and superstars. If you lose, that was due to bad luck, or as Romão put it tonight, 'things didn't work out well'...
His lack of class his transcendent: the declarations he made in response to Queirós' accusations are unexcusable for someone representing our country.

Our team is a reflects the maturity of its players: ball-hogs, who can't string 3 passes to save their lives. Where's our trademark fast-paced passing? Where's the offensive play?
And why the hell did he bring Frechaut and Meira?
The lack of discipline is an embarrassement to all of us. He clearly has no control over his players. When his statue-like pose was splashed upon our screens right after every Iraq goal I couldn't help imagining what he was thinking: 'Oh, ****, I'm in serious trouble now'.

To top it off, Romão had no idea whatsoever of Iraq's players, what gameplan they usually follow, strengths, weaknesses, etc.
That kid Nuno Ribeiro was completely OWNED by Iraq's right winger. One could argue that Romão only saw this when he was already losing by two goals since the air was clearly obstructing his vision of the pitch, but still...

Madaíl = Mediocre

Well, he hired Romão, didn't he?


Cristiano Ronaldo

Cristiano deserves a category of his own. When he punched his opponent in the 18th minute I instantly thought about the controversy between his NT coach and his ManU field coach, Carlos Queiroz. I thought about the atmosphere surrounding him, and how a 19yo kid deals with such pressure on his shoulders. Where's his loyalty? To his country? To those who pay his wages?
On that moment, Cristiano let loose all the anger he has deep inside, for the situation he was put in. Unfortunately, he punched the wrong guy...
From what it seems, he was gently 'forced' by the coaches to play injured; if he was at 100%, why didn't he train with the rest of his team? Not that his teammates ever trained for the Iraq match themselves, but still...

Playing on this basis, I think he did more than we were to expect.


The Playas

And what a bunch of playas we got here.

Frechaut - Didn't have a good season overall, despite a good couple games for Boavista (and I went 3 times to Bessa stad last season). The older players should be like the 2 americans our national basketball teams can have: a plus. He didn't add anything that we didn't have already, so he was clearly a casting mistake.

Ricardo Costa - Should have been our defence's natural leader, and was: he led his teammates into several mistakes. There's no way he'll play in Porto showing this kind of form.

Bruno Alves - His idea of stopping opponents is to foul them. Like Ricardo Costa, will never play in Porto if he doesn't evolve to something better.

Jorge Ribeiro - Owned.

Fernando Meira - Oh my. Can't find a teammate with a pass unless he's within a radius of 1,5 meters. Made incredible tactical mistakes, absolutely unbelievable for a player of his caliber (anyone who knows a bit about football certainly understands what I'm trying to say). By the way, what is his caliber?

Hugo Viana - How important these years are to the evolution of a player. One full season on the bench can be a career-killer! This seems the case with Hugo Viana. Incredible how far away from his Sporting years he is. Where's his unique abbility to control the pace of the game gone to?

Boa Morte - He tried. He seriously did.

The other kids were okay. Not good, but there's still hope for them.


Bottom Line

Have a safe flight home. And please try to drop Romão off the plane, preferably over the Mediterranic Sea.
 

Paulo Da Silva

Starting XI
Originally posted by RuiCosta_10
Don't try to make the game easy for us... and then if u win u're saying...

"HAHAHA Even with the "B" team we win you.. HAHAHA"

"U guys were thinking it will be easy for you.. take it HAHHAHA"


It won't be easy for nobody... It will be a good game for shure.. and both teams will have the same chance to win the game.

50-50.

no Benfica have a full squad, we have a half squad. Jesus just face it , if Benfica lose it's pathetic, especially with our defense
 

Punkt

Fan Favourite
Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
no Benfica have a full squad, we have a half squad. Jesus just face it , if Benfica lose it's pathetic, especially with our defense

i don't think so... :rolleyes:
 

[dfm]

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
we hardly have enough players for a starting 11.

the least FPF can do is postpone the game till after the ******* olympics. This is pure bull****, Benfica lose 2-3 players we lose 10+ players.

the funny thing is that if Benfica win they will think theydeserved it and are the better team.

i expect Benfica to win by 2 or 3

players that are eligible

Baia
Nuno
Areias
Valente
Rossato
Pedro Emmanuel
Maniche
Diego
Carlos Alberto
Quaresma
Maciel
Cesar Peixoto
Derlei
Benni
Jankauskas
Costinha

My Starting Line-up

============Baia================
=======Areias=====P.Emanuel=======
Rossato====================Valente
===========Costinha==============
=====Maniche====================
=================Diego==========
Quarema=====================Derlei
============Benni================

actually i think we still do stand a chance, it will be a close game :rockman:

U forgot we'll miss Maniche too... :rolleyes: anyway i don't expect Benfica to win(in my books Porto is always the favourite to win the matches :p), we have the best squad and i believe we'll find some good solutions to replace the missing players, like other people said it will be 50/50 but if Porto win we have much more credit for playing without so much important players. ;)
 

[dfm]

Senior Squad
Yeah, Porto will miss LOTS of important players but now the match can't be postponed... let's hope the players that are available can give all they have, i still think we are strong enough to beat them in a situation like this, let's see... ;)
 
V

Virgo

Guest
Originally posted by INFESTA
Have a safe flight home. And please try to drop Romão off the plane, preferably over the Mediterranic Sea.

AHAHHAHAAHHAHA

:rofl:
 

bmpv666

Reserve Team
i really never understood why the super cup was scheduled for the 20th...Benfica has an important match on the 24th (the CL qualifier), and Porto has the European Super Cup on the 25th...
the 20th of August seams to be the worst day for both teams to play the supercup, but that's just my opinion.. :rolleyes:
 

Parasol

Senior Squad
Originally posted by bmpv666
i really never understood why the super cup was scheduled for the 20th...Benfica has an important match on the 24th (the CL qualifier), and Porto has the European Super Cup on the 25th...
the 20th of August seams to be the worst day for both teams to play the supercup, but that's just my opinion.. :rolleyes:


why is it the worst day to the supercup to be played? because it's the first game of the season and your players will have to pay suspension for the final games of the last season exactly in this match?
 

[dfm]

Senior Squad
It's not only the suspensions that are our problem... u seem to forget the players called to their NT and also those that are injured...
 

Parasol

Senior Squad
you're not saying you're missing ricardo costa :crazyboy:


ok... that excuse may work for bosingwa... but we've got our keeper there too so :)


hope it's a good game
 

Avalanche

Senior Squad
Hugo, a little addendum to your post.

The Romao Factor

Was it me, or did Jose Romao select the 18 best indidviual players instead of selecting the 1 best team? IMO he shouldn't have called up Cristiano Ronaldo, not because Manchester United objected, but because he is TIRED. Yes, that's right, he needs a rest, and not just for a week. At least a month or so should recharge his batteries. Lastly, about your dog sh*t analogy, the team he put out there last night sure left a big steaming pile of it out on the pitch in Patras, and I'm sure he prolly said "Good job, lads. Keep up the good work."

Madaíl = Mediocre

After all, he is the pimp of Portuguese football. Also, how in the hell did he get his Doctorate's? From a lucky Coke bottle cap?

Cristiano Ronaldo

See "The Romao Factor"

The Playas

You forgot about Moreira. Honest to sh*t, he was way out of position on two of the goals, but it totally wasn't his fault, because the defenders gave up trying a long time ago.

The Bottom Line

I'd rather have Romao be sent to the prison from the TV show "Oz" than drop him over the Mediterreanan Sea.
 

Paulo Da Silva

Starting XI
Originally posted by Parasol
you're not saying you're missing ricardo costa :crazyboy:


ok... that excuse may work for bosingwa... but we've got our keeper there too so :)


hope it's a good game

i'd rather have Ricardo Costa than Luisao.
They only reason Benfica fans don't complain is that they can finally win there 2nd trophy in 8 years.

i can care less about suspensions, it's the players we will miss due to Interrnationals, the FPF knows about that but they are stupid idiots.

say what you want if Benfica lose they lost to a B team
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
============Baia================
=======Areias=====P.Emanuel=======
Rossato====================Valente
===========Costinha==============
=====Maniche====================
=================Diego==========
Quarema=====================Derlei
============Benni================


So... Baia, Rossato, Valente, Costinha, Maniche, Diego, Quaresma and Derlei are players of the "B" team?
 

3m1n3m

Senior Squad
Romão is taking charge of the team for the last matches. Scolari will be the coach of all the national sides, from the U-15 to the Full International sides.

I guess not even a regional team would like to have Romão as a coach after the Olympics end for the NT. He really shows he has a big lack of knowledge about football (or none at all).


About the Supercup tie between Porto and Benfica:

I don't know WHY THE **** are some Porto fans trying to say that Benfica is being beneficiated and Porto robbed by the FPF. I won't extend my talk about this particular subject any longer, or I'll end up flamed once again for giving my opinion. I'll just say the FPF are a bunch of creeps and they are trying to screw every club in every possible way. Maybe except two or three sometimes. Not now.

And it's good to see the game in a more neutral ground (geographically speaking) than last season's. A game between FC Porto and Leiria was in GUIMARÃES.
 

3m1n3m

Senior Squad
Originally posted by RuiCosta_10
So... Baia, Rossato, Valente, Costinha, Maniche, Diego, Quaresma and Derlei are players of the "B" team?

Yeah, especially Maniche. How the hell can a player from a "B" squad be in EURO 2004?! :rolleyes:

C'mon, the biggest problem you have is forming the defence, that's the problem. From midfield to upfront, you have an excellent group of players.
 


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