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The Wolf 2005 Option File BETA

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Originally posted by thenerdgod
Just played a game against Barcelona and I notice the lack of pressence by Ronaldinho... hardly any affect on the game. Looking at the formation, I believe he should be OMF instead of LMF, kinda like Zidane and be placed as close as possible to the attack border so he gets a bigger 'appearance' ingame just like in real life.

Ronaldinho plays a dual role of attacker and midfielder so he definitely should be OMF with attacking arrows rather than isolated LMF.

Just my 2c


Ok, just sorted that out. Moved Ronny more inside and attacking arrows down wing and towards the goal.
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Originally posted by pubb
some bugs:
Ortega of Argentina's face are Ariel Ortega ,but the stat are another Ortega's.
Ledesma of River Plate has the same stat as Ledesma of Lecce. Surely it's not the correct case.
Mauro Rosales and Maschenaro both are 5x of Stamina. They can't play even half time in red condition.

I'm afraid CM4's stat are not so compatible with that of PES4/we8. Maybe they are defined with different thinking.

Fixed the first two, thanks for pointing them out. Regarding the third one, I will look into the whole stamina thing. To be honest I've never liked the stamina thing at all as 99% of professional players, unless they're injured, should have the stamina to last a full game. The only exception in the game is if you continue to use the same player over and over and over again for longs runs.

Given that professional players should rarely be substituted because they don't have stamina (except when regaining match fitness after injury) we should put all staminas up to 90 or 100 so the only time they get tired is if you use them over and over.
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Originally posted by nik0s
After a lot of games I like the slower pace of the game, especially that fact that teams have longer possesion stretches and the fact that a player will now dribble no more that 1-2 defenders.

But I have to admit there are 2 things that the CM4 database is incompatible with:

1.Stamina: In PES4 anything below 70 means that the player's stamina bar won't rouhly make it through the 70 min. It may be so in some cases in real life, but noticing 25-27 year old side backs not making it through a game is not right. I think maybe the converter should adjust by setting CM4 10= PES4 70 instead of 50.

2. First touch is iffy. I have no idea which stat controls that and it's not major, but often even very skilled players like Rivaldo or Ronaldinio seem to first touch the ball high and far away from them without pressure.

IMO everything else seems just fine,and though some players may not exactly seem like their real life counterparts, the teams in general do. Maybe if the FM2005 database is finally supported things will get even more accurate.Keep up the good work

PS. Wolf ty and gj on the Greek teams, but can you pls change Olympiacos' number style to 1 , cause it's on 3 now and it's fugly
:)

Agree on the stamina thing, may look to change it.

Regarding the first touch, this has always happened in the game even with the default Konami stats and it seems to happen even on players who are pretty maxed out in the 90s.
 

kenjude

Club Supporter
Originally posted by TristanAbbott7
Agree on the stamina thing, may look to change it.

Regarding the first touch, this has always happened in the game even with the default Konami stats and it seems to happen even on players who are pretty maxed out in the 90s.

As someone who watches my football in the Nationwide Conference I quite like this "loose" aspect of the game. It's fun seeing Henry's first touch being no better than Anthony Elding or Brian Quailey's :)
 

jimbo118

Reserve Team
just noticed alot of keepers have position and reaction,these are outfiled player abilities particurly reaction

also alot of defenders have line positioning but once again this is a special ability for strikers being able to beat the offside trap etc,this should be fixed
 

jimbo118

Reserve Team
freddie ljungberg is right-footed,van persie is left footed,how come things like this are changed?also lauren d line ability?

kenny cunningham has 9 special abilies including playmaker.
 

Prutser

Club Supporter
I found it strange that i read that the "special ability's" don't affect the gameplay.......and this just after TWO games ????
I think you can say that it won't affect the gameplay if you see the sourcecode of pes4.

After i played a couple of games with the version 2 of the new optionfile, i found also that the "First touch" was not good on a lot of players. And also that sometimes the players makes strange movements.

I hope that all the (positive) comments here will result in an almost perfect and realistic optionfile.
Keep on the good work Wolf !
 

didamangi

Club Supporter
Thanks for your effort Wolf ;)

I want to add a couple of things about Liverpool:

- Morientes to Liverpool, no doubt you'll put him on the next patch already tho.

- Smicer should be put back in the Liverpool squad. He's injured ATM but still in the club.
 

scoham

Youth Team
Wolf any chance you fix the Charlton positions, I posted them a few pages ago, they are the correct ones from FM 2005, and any that aren't in FM will be in any SI data updates/FM 2006 (This is a fact, not just saying that either)

Can you explain please why basically all outfield players have side or centre? Is there a reason for this?

Another thing Kiely should not have penalty scoring, the reason his attribute for penalties is high in FM is for saving them, not scoring.

Euell plays for Jamaica now, should also be in their squad.

Jerome Thomas is a lot worse since he doesn't have many stats in CM/FM. I can give ones which will be in FM 2006/any SI data updates Wolf if you want (yes they are official).

Kishishev and Holland should be CMF not DMF in the formation. All squad numbers and set piece takers are correct though :)

kschoice one small problem I noticed is pace and acceleration is related to ability, It shouldn't be (may be more like this but harder to tell). Henry shouldn't be one of the fastest player on the game, the players with 20 pace and acceleration should be (eg Rommedahl). All physical stats shouldn't use anything else apart from relavant stats to work them out, better players shouldn't be faster, the fastest players should be the fastest, like in CM/FM.

Also might be better if it takes height into consideration (from PES) so jumping is more realistic. Apart from that and a few strange special abilities the converter works very well.

Is there and FM stat converter yet or was this all done with a CM0304 update?
 

nik0s

Club Supporter
I was just checking out the new EditPES4Optionfile and I went through the "Players from Greece" List:

Borbokis, Nikoaidis and Kostis are retired, you can use the slots to create other players

Same goes for Tatsis, Gonias and Karameris who have transfered to smaller clubs that are not in the game and will never play for the national team (I wonder why Konami thought Gonias is black :o )

Also , and I apologise for that, Sapanis is still with Panathinaikos , his transfer broke down. He is No. 22

Finally, I noticed that there is something wrong with the Youth Players, either in the option file or the editor, as a lot of players that belong to teams or are older 20 than are listed. Examples are Damian (Barcelona age 46) and Markori Age 35. Maybe they were linked to CM4 automaticly by name. Maybe the "Exclude Youth" check box wasn't clicked or is not working...
 

Dinho

Club Supporter
Hello,

This is my first post. I'm from spain and i would like to help us to update spanish squads..

I download the OPtFile Beta but.. I see this..

Anderson aren't in Villarreal.. is in Qtar.
Morientes (R.Madrid)--> [Liverpool]

FCBarcelona starting squad, real numbers, and real t-shirt names, and // are the subs :

4-3-3-C

1. V. Valdés // 25. Jorquera
23. Oleguer // 19. F.Navarro
5. Puyol // 34. Rodri
2. Belleti // 32. Damià
12. Gio // 16. Sylvinho
4. Márquez // 15. Edmilson [+] // 3. Motta [+]
6. Xavi // 14. Gerard
20. Deco // 18. Gabri [+]
8. Giuly // 24. A. Iniesta
10. Ronaldinho // 30. Messi
9. Eto'o // 7. Larsson [+]

[+] Injured
 

jimbo118

Reserve Team
dinho would you know the spanish league players boots?like what the players in all the clubs wear or possibly a link to a spanish site that does?
 

boutta

Club Supporter
Morientes (R.Madrid)--> [Liverpool]

at the end of the season right ??

and Mutu will he be at Juventus at the end of the season or right now ? becaude he has offered a 5 years contract from Juventus.
 

Prutser

Club Supporter
Why are most people only looking if the correct players are in an team, and not looking how the new stats for the players are in the gameplay ?????

Did we now have a better, more realistic, gameplay with this new optionfile than.

It looks that everything is going slower, maybe more realistic, but also shooting looks like it's with less power.
 

boutta

Club Supporter
Originally posted by Prutser
Why are most people only looking if the correct players are in an team, and not looking how the new stats for the players are in the gameplay ?????

Did we now have a better, more realistic, gameplay with this new optionfile than.

It looks that everything is going slower, maybe more realistic, but also shooting looks like it's with less power.
Slower whit not good players like Charisteas and Henry see the difference damn BIG just like in REAL LIFE. I like the stats of the players because they are revealing the difference between a good and a bad club.
 

manolis

Youth Team
Nordin Wooter (or Voter) from Anorthosis (Cyprus) to Panathinaikos
Shirt number 50

www.pao.gr/media/2004-2005/PLAYERS/300_VOTER.jpg


Panathinaikos released GK Kostas Chalkias and Joel Epallé
 


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