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** Things I HATE in PES2 **

hitmanuk2k

Youth Team
Re: ** Things I HATE in PES2 **

Originally posted by GooseTickler
1) there are no ingame options - i.e.

you cant put fouls on/off
you cant put offsides on/off
you cant put bookings on/off
you can put injuries on/off
ref strictness on/off

fair enough you cant do these in a REAL match. but this is a game, i should have these options. it should be my choice.

2) you cant change sides half way through the game or ADD a player. if your playing 1 player and someone else wants to join. you have to start a NEW game. very frustrating.

3)you cant foul the goal keeper. it should be up to me wether i want to foul the keeper or not. i should have this option at least.

4)you cant watch replays at anytime. not even AFTER a goal. again, i should have this option.

5)team managment has been put a step down from PES. why cant i put 10 players up front? its MY choice im the manager!!!!

6)not enough FREEDOM. what konami need to do is play fifa, take all the good things from them, namely the OPTIONS and add them to this game. PES is by far the better game, but its these little things that are slowing it down in the world of football-gaming!

7)there is no advantage. this is realy annoying when your through on goal and you've been tripped up, but then your other player is in possession of the ball and the ref blows the whistle!

8)the goal keeper cant drop the ball to his feet. how stupid id that?!

9)there is no "restart match" option.

10) there is no club team players edit. only international. CRAZY!

i'll add to this when i remember the rest, right noiw i'm off to cry about liverpools chances of getting into the CL. :(

GooseTicker, i agree with some of your points to a degree... but some of them are just blatantly wrong

1)
If you want a game without fouls... play training
If you want a game without offsides... play training
If you want a game without bookings... play training or allstars
If you want a game without injuries... turn them off!!!
If you want to change the refs strictness... hard luck! In real life every referee has there own strictness, and its like this in PES2.

2)
This option would be useful if a 3rd person (for example) arrived and wanted to join a current game, but from Konami's point of view you can see why it isn't include because many people would simply change their side and come back from defeat.

3)
Yes, you can. You just can't do it FIFA stylie... but why would you want to anyway.

4)
Yes, you can watch replays of a goal, and you can also save them! AND you get instant replays of any key moments anyway... what else are you really gonna wanna watch over and over.

5)
Has it? There is more freedom with the formation editing in PES2 than what was in PES

6)
I agree to some extent, but probably not regarding the same points. I want Konami to take a leaf out of FIFA's book and allow custom leagues with club teams etc. but not the options which you suggest. I would rather they put more effort in making the gameplay better than including crappy options

7)
Agree with you on this, advantages should be in the game

8)
Agree with you that this should be included

9)
Yes, there is, but only at the end. It would probably be a good idea to include one for anytime during the game.

10) Yes, there is. Technically editing club team players is easier than editing International players since you don't have to register them etc., you just have to modify them.
 

culo

Youth Team
What you have to realise is that this is a PES forum. Many of us members refuse to accept any criticism of their beloved game and should anyone mention a possible improvement, we paste "Go play Fifa" which we have permanently stored in our clipboards for such occassions.

PES is perfect and should not be changed in any way so we can spend our £35 each year and play exactly the same game as last year, except for a couple of tweaks which make it perfecter. In fact, we should be charged more money for such perfect perfection.

Time to stick tongue up Seabass' bum.
 

GooseTickler

Club Supporter
Originally posted by culo
What you have to realise is that this is a PES forum. Many of us members refuse to accept any criticism of their beloved game and should anyone mention a possible improvement, we paste "Go play Fifa" which we have permanently stored in our clipboards for such occassions.

PES is perfect and should not be changed in any way so we can spend our £35 each year and play exactly the same game as last year, except for a couple of tweaks which make it perfecter. In fact, we should be charged more money for such perfect perfection.

Time to stick tongue up Seabass' bum.

i love PES2 as much as the next guy, maybe more. but i have to critisize the negative aspects of the game. lets get one thing straight - fifa is second best. PES is the game to have. but with such silly things as not allowing the keeper to drop the ball, or not playing advantage is silly.

if my options were all available this would be the PERFECT game, as of now, its still near perfect, but not quiet.

i'm off to talk to Konami, i'll be back in a bit.
 

rascricket

Youth Team
Man, how foolish!!
WTS/TIF is soooo much better than FIFA...I might even pop my WTS 2002 in just too compare it again with WE6......FIFA is a joke....like droppin the ball with the goalie ,huh? Weel, I like heading the ball alot more
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
Re: ** Things I HATE in PES2 **

Originally posted by GooseTickler
1) there are no ingame options - i.e.

you cant put fouls on/off
you cant put offsides on/off
you cant put bookings on/off
you can put injuries on/off
ref strictness on/off

fair enough you cant do these in a REAL match. but this is a game, i should have these options. it should be my choice.

2) you cant change sides half way through the game or ADD a player. if your playing 1 player and someone else wants to join. you have to start a NEW game. very frustrating.

3)you cant foul the goal keeper. it should be up to me wether i want to foul the keeper or not. i should have this option at least.

4)you cant watch replays at anytime. not even AFTER a goal. again, i should have this option.

5)team managment has been put a step down from PES. why cant i put 10 players up front? its MY choice im the manager!!!!

6)not enough FREEDOM. what konami need to do is play fifa, take all the good things from them, namely the OPTIONS and add them to this game. PES is by far the better game, but its these little things that are slowing it down in the world of football-gaming!

7)there is no advantage. this is realy annoying when your through on goal and you've been tripped up, but then your other player is in possession of the ball and the ref blows the whistle!

8)the goal keeper cant drop the ball to his feet. how stupid id that?!

9)there is no "restart match" option.

10) there is no club team players edit. only international. CRAZY!

i'll add to this when i remember the rest, right noiw i'm off to cry about liverpools chances of getting into the CL. :(

More things I hate to add to these excellent ideas.

1) No option to use karate kicks on players

2) No players can fly in the game, I want to bbe able to do this if I wish !!

3) I want to be able to toggle between NFL rules where you tackle people with your arms

4) I want an option that put's my center forward in a fully animated working helicopter

5) I want firearms being used to shatter defenses with live ammo etc.

6) I want an FPS mode like Doom,

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S UNREALISTIC, I want these things !! :f***: :rolleyes:
 

Brainodo

Club Supporter
Why is everyone so upset about this? These are options that exist in a lot of other games.
No-one's saying this game is not of unbridled quality, one person has mused on the reasons for excluding options that have been available before and would like to see them in this game, so what is the big deal?

Why so defensive? Are the FIFA hordes so agressive we all have to be super-defensive?

I for one, would love to have an 'anytime' replay option.

Also, could someone please explain what is so unrealistic about this request:
8)the goal keeper cant drop the ball to his feet. how stupid id that?!

Okay, so it could be asked a bit more calmly, but I'd like the option.

Operative word here option.
 

Zlatan#9

Youth Team
Originally posted by TristanAbbott7
Well if you don't like it, why not go back to FIFA! Not difficult is it?

Go back to FIFA? Nah, that's five years back, I've preferred the WE/PE(S) series since then. I'm glad Konami ain't like you, they can take some constructive critizism hence bettering the game from year to year unlike the FIFA franchise.
 
only thing that i dont like about ps2 is that u cant do transfers and a lot of the teams have pretty old line ups! including scotland who have hendry and elliot at the back who havent played for like 2 years or something
 

rascricket

Youth Team
Ha, ha....LOFL......!!

The CRO......that was SOOOO funny.I'd quote your post but its too long...but, OMG an FPS mode like DOOM!!! LOL!! That some funny stuff...

"I want my guys to fly....."

I agree, sometimes I'd like a bazooka for some of the teams.....S**t, in DIV 3 EXTREME, I'd love to roll on the feild with a tank just to REMIND some of those players WHY they are in DIV 3....those DIV 3 guys are too good for their britches!:D

Sounds like this kid is one of the few who liked RED CARD......Man, RED CARD IS SUCH BUNK.... I RENTED THAT MESS THINKIN' "COOL.....NEW FOOTY GAME".....UH,UH.......THE MOMENT I SAW I WAS PLAYING AGAINST FRICKIN' DOLPHINS I COUDNT HANDLE IT!!!! DOLPHINS??????? I WAS AFRAID TO SEE WHAT WOULD COME NEXT SO I QUICKLY SHUT THAT CRAP OFF NEVER TO PLAY IT AGAIN!!! DOLPHINS????? someone else around here HAD to experience the same thing
 

GooseTickler

Club Supporter
the key word here is OPTIONS!

i.e those who want it can choose it those who dont want it dont have to choose it. simple as that, but at least give us the choice. isnt that what makes a good game?

stop telling me to go back to fifa. i left it never to return....well only occasionaly, to see how bad its become ;)
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
I would argue otherwise, that IS NOT what makes a good game. You can have all the options in the world, if its founded on dodgy gameplay, it's worthless.
 

rascricket

Youth Team
Allright, enough childish crap....Go tickle some goos-es.....And 'nuff yak bout those options.

TWO THINGS I TOTALLY HATE

1) The little BEEP sound in the menu interface. Ya know, when youre swithchin' around that annoying, grating sund is HORRIBLE! WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING!!?? That sound is just atrocious!

2) I hate the way my teamates position themslves for a FK---the long ones....Like, if I want to pass a grounder to a teamate it DOESNT ALWAYS GO THE WAY YOU'RE FACING....ISS PE was much better in this respect...They use to lne up better with somone out on the wing more often in ISS PE during a FK where you're going to pass it SHORT
 


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