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Your VOTE for US president - I give you mine

FuriousGeorge

Reserve Team
I have decided to give all of you non-US people and US under 18 Y/o people a chance to use my vote for President of the United States.

I will be voting out of Austin, Texas (the most liberal of large Texas cities) I will only include the top candidates, but the results of this poll WILL indicate who my presidential vote is cast for.
 

Deutschland

Starting XI
Wow :confused:

I don't really know, but after hearing George crack that joke about Kerry debating with himself, I am voting Republican. (btw it would be funny if we caught George Bush HIMSELF voting on this poll, trying to win votes (H) )
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
I don't know that much about Kerry but I do know that Bush is someone who should not be in power, the sooner they get rid of them the better. I have heard that Kerry isn't that great either but I'm sure he's not as bad as Bush so just vote anyone but Bush.

Actually, bring back Clinton.:p
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Kerry really should go for the jugular in the debates and forget about the negative points he might get with the hardcore attitude. Gore was too polite and he lost.
 

Daz

Everyone's Favourite Diabetic
Re: Your VOTE for US president - I give you mine

Originally posted by FuriousGeorge
I have decided to give all of you non-US people and US under 18 Y/o people a chance to use my vote for President of the United States.

I will be voting out of Austin, Texas (the most liberal of large Texas cities) I will only include the top candidates, but the results of this poll WILL indicate who my presidential vote is cast for.

Isn't that illegal?
 

Hakeem

Superman
Originally posted by ShiftyPowers
Kerry really should go for the jugular in the debates and forget about the negative points he might get with the hardcore attitude. Gore was too polite and he lost.

true that. everybody wants Bush out, but Kerry is not a good alternative judging by what he says and his promises.
all he does is to agree with what Bush does and just say "I would've done it differently". thats not enough.

in order to win, he has to go out and say this:

"The WTC attack wouldn't have happened if Al Gore was the President. It was an attack against Bush"

if he says that, he'll win.


oh, and if he gives the residency to all the working illegal aliens then he's in for sure.
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
Obviously I cant vote, but if I was in the US I would definately vote for Nader. I know it wouldnt count for sh!t, but Nader is a truely honest polititian with no hidden agenda, an outstanding record and great ideas. I wouldnt vote Democrat or Republican as both Kerry and Bush are total washouts, and Nader is by far the best of the other three. Why isn't he running for the Green's again this year?
 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
Originally posted by bjmenge
Damn it, I wish John Edwards had won the primaries.
I wish John McCain was up there. Edwards, McCain and Nader would all be excellent choices.
 

Brondbyfan

Senior Squad
don't really know, but after hearing George crack that joke about Kerry debating with himself, I am voting Republican.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Bush could easily debate his past self on abortion, North Korea, Social Security, the creation of a Department of Homeland Security, the creation of the 9/11 commission, a gay marriage amendment, foreign intervention, and the war on terrorism. Bush and his people put the "Kerry flip-flopper" propaganda out there with the aid of their media allies to deflect the criticism Bush deserves for his lack of any kind of ideological consistency. Now, when people point out Bush's frequently shifting policies, everyone thinks "But . . . but Fox News told me KERRY is the flip-flopper!"

ShiftyPowers, I think Kerry will be very tough on Bush. Bush won't have his media to present his lies as truth, and Kerry will call him on his B.S. However, I think this chart sums up very well what media coverage of the debate will be like.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/04/172.html#9
 

USA Supporter

Reserve Team
I'm a moderate who supported Bush in 2000. Sadly, I am 17 so I won't be able to vote until next year. :( Bush has lost my support and has gained my hatred. He made himself appear relatively moderate in 2000 and has been anything but. His social views are geared towards the far right. The only thing that is left wing about him are his spending habits and spending like a liberal while taxing like a conservative simply doesn't work. I think Bush is just way too far to the right to get my support, and he has just done way too many things that I disagree with. I think the best candidate for president is Badnarik, that's the guy I would vote for. However, if I had to choose between Kerry and Bush, I would vote for Kerry. Kerry will tax too much but I think he is a better overall candidate. I don't think he is a good candidate at all, but I think he's better than Bush.
 

Brondbyfan

Senior Squad
I don't think Kerry will tax too much, he's cutting taxes on 98% of American families. Not that you'd know that if you listened to the so-called liberal media. Bush has wrought record low revenues on America, while simultaneously causing a need for more money with the Iraq war. If you can think of a way around this problem without raising taxes I'd like to hear it.

Bush's problem isn't that he's too far to the right, it's that he subscribes to no ideology or beliefs at all. This is why he flip-flops so much. He can be pushed by any number of groups into any number of ideological positions. So first he says gay marriage is a state issue because that's a conservative (and legitimate) position, but then he flip-flops and supports a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage because he's pushed that way by fundamentalist theocrats. First he opposes nation building because that's an isolationist and traditionally Republican point of view, and now he's off on his Iraq jaunt to satisfy the neo-cons and radical Zionists.
 

Vagegast

Banned for Life [He likes P. Diddy]
I don't think you'll have to worry about tax increases unless you're making over $200,000. Kerry would shoot himself and the Democrats in Congress if he'd increase taxes for the bottom 98%. Mid-terms in 2006 and re-election in 2008.
Originally posted by Sir Didier*CFC
Nader is a truely honest polititian with no hidden agenda, an outstanding record and great ideas.
From the New Republic, a liberal magazine.
Nader made his name with the 1965 publication of Unsafe at Any Speed, an exposé of the Chevy Corvair. Today, people generally remember the ways in which Nader was right--the appalling lack of concern for safety in the automobile industry and the need for federal regulations. Few realize that Nader's campaign against the Corvair was only the most visible edge of an uncompromising, conspiratorial worldview. Nader believed not only that the Corvair was dangerous but that General Motors (GM) knew it was. Justin Martin, in his fair-minded 2002 biography, Nader: Crusader, Spoiler, Icon, shows how Nader hounded liberal Connecticut Senator Abraham Ribicoff into investigating whether GM had lied about what it knew in testimony before Congress. In a letter to Ribicoff, Nader wrote, "Now comes decisive evidence which reveals a labyrinthic and systematic intra-company collusion, involving high General Motors officials, to sequester and suppress company data and films." Nader insisted he had an array of inside sources and documents that would reveal this conspiracy. Ribicoff dutifully assigned a pair of staffers to the case, and they spent two years chasing down Nader's leads. None of them panned out. The investigators found no evidence that GM knew of the Corvair's safety flaws. The failure to confirm Nader's suspicions enraged him. "He could not let go of the Corvair issue," one of the staffers told Martin. "He was fixated. And, if you didn't accept or believe the same things he did, you were either stupid or venal."

During the late '60s and early '70s, Nader developed a reputation as a wonk's wonk, a data-driven do-gooder with a stack of papers perpetually tucked under his arm. In fact, even then his work was driven by ideologically motivated fanaticism. In 1971, Nader pressured one of his associates, Lowell Dodge, to sex up his study "Small on Safety: The Designed-in Dangers of the Volkswagen." In his self-proclaimed 1976 hatchet job, Me & Ralph, former tnr managing editor David Sanford describes how Nader insisted that Dodge rewrite the conclusion of the study so that it began, "The Volkswagen is the most hazardous car in use in significant numbers in the U.S. today." Objecting that "the conclusion is not reflected in the data," Dodge left the project, allowing others to take credit as principal authors. "I have always carried around considerable guilt about what I regard as the extreme intellectual dishonesty of that conclusion," he told Sanford.

Nader's true fame came not from Unsafe at Any Speed but from the fact that its publication prompted GM to hire a private investigator to dig up damaging personal information that might discredit him. The irony is that Nader's grandiose paranoia predated this episode. Before publishing Unsafe at Any Speed, Nader worked as an obscure functionary at the Labor Department under then-Assistant Secretary Pat Moynihan. "Ralph was a very suspicious man," Moynihan told Charles McCarry in his 1972 biography Citizen Nader. "He used to warn me that the phones at the Labor Department might be tapped. I'd say, 'Fine! They'll learn that the unemployment rate for March is 5.3 percent, that's what they'll learn.'"
Paranoid sh*t. (H)
 

rony31

Team Captain
Howard Dean


YEAH!!!
 

xxxFLYERxxx

Starting XI
I cant stand John Edwards. He seems like the sleeziest guy on the face of the earth. When i hear him talk on TV it makes want to throw up.

Give me anybody other that Kerry, Edwards or Dean for the Democratic ticket. I liked Wesley Clarke.
 


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