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The Barcelona Thread
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Panxoman-it's not the players.
Barca now has a better team than last season.And at the end of last season Antic took over and did a lot in such short time.So you see ,the problem can't be the players.
It's Rijkaard who screws up.
If he played all the stars (Rustu .Saviola ,Overmars ,Marquez) we'd have a team that would be better than the current one.
Also ,the Club would be feared off the pitch.
When an opponent comes to Camp Nou ,and sees Valdes ,Navarro ,Motta and L.Garcia playing instead of Rustu ,Marquez ,L.Enrique ,Quaresma ,Overmars and Saviola ,then they think "This is gonna be easy."
And the sad thing is ,it's really easy.
How can it not be easy with all those great players at the bench and newbies to the team playing from minute 1.
You don't really need much of a tactic if you had players like that.
Serra Ferrer was reasonable but didn't have the team to perform all his tactic ideas.But at least he played his best 11.
Rexach was solid.Did good things ,few embarassments but that's fine.He was also a reasonable coach.
Antic was awesome.Shame he left.
Van Gaal was nothing like the coach who won several titles during his previous spell.I don't know what he was thinking.Especially when he kept Saviola on the bench.
And now ,Barca has a better team than during Serra ferrer and Rexach era ,but sadly ,we no longer have a reasonable coach.
First the coach was the good thing and team the problem.
Now the team's the good thing and coach the problem.
Barca now has a better team than last season.And at the end of last season Antic took over and did a lot in such short time.So you see ,the problem can't be the players.
It's Rijkaard who screws up.
If he played all the stars (Rustu .Saviola ,Overmars ,Marquez) we'd have a team that would be better than the current one.
Also ,the Club would be feared off the pitch.
When an opponent comes to Camp Nou ,and sees Valdes ,Navarro ,Motta and L.Garcia playing instead of Rustu ,Marquez ,L.Enrique ,Quaresma ,Overmars and Saviola ,then they think "This is gonna be easy."
And the sad thing is ,it's really easy.
How can it not be easy with all those great players at the bench and newbies to the team playing from minute 1.
You don't really need much of a tactic if you had players like that.
Serra Ferrer was reasonable but didn't have the team to perform all his tactic ideas.But at least he played his best 11.
Rexach was solid.Did good things ,few embarassments but that's fine.He was also a reasonable coach.
Antic was awesome.Shame he left.
Van Gaal was nothing like the coach who won several titles during his previous spell.I don't know what he was thinking.Especially when he kept Saviola on the bench.
And now ,Barca has a better team than during Serra ferrer and Rexach era ,but sadly ,we no longer have a reasonable coach.
First the coach was the good thing and team the problem.
Now the team's the good thing and coach the problem.
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ok, that is the dumbest reason of all, "dosen't speak spanish," but if they were looking for a spanish speaking keeper why didn't they just buy one? I mean wasn't Oscar Cordoba and Rustu linked to Barça at the same time, and they chose Rustu, both are top keepers in my opionion.....you guys need a new coach...
No, I think the main problem is a group of players that haven’t won anything in the last 4 years. Rijkaard is doing bad, I agree with that, but there’s something else.
In all this time there have been 5 coaches (Serra Ferrer, Reixach, van Gaal, Antic and now Rijkaard) and 4 presidents (Nuñez, Gaspar, Reina and Laporta) but the main group of players has been the same. They have “killed” 4 coaches and 3 presidents…. A good record, isn’t it?.
Did you see last match against Malaga? Do you think that tactics were the problem? No, that day the problem was that the players didn’t gave a f**king damm about the game. Like in many other games during these last 5 years.
Or last game againt Celta, so you think that after the “great” match they did is good to find most of the players in a disco. I don’t care if they go to parties as long as they do well on the pitch, but if they fail, they should have some respect to the supporters and not show themselves dancing and drinking while many people is pissed off.
They have no commintment with the club and no will to win that’s the problem.
Do you really think that Rustu, saviola, Overmars and Marquez are the solution.
Rustu? He is a great Gk, but the problem is not getting goals this year. And Victor Valdes is doing OK
Saviola? He can’t be the main striker. He’s a good player but he needs someone else playing forward. A good striker, not Kluivert
Overmars? He’s the more inconsistent player I’ve ever seen. One great match, 2 bad matches, and 4 injured weeks.
Marquez? He has’t proved anything special in the games he has played. Maybe he needs some time.
Luis Enrique is history. He may be good for the last 20 minutes of the game but that’s all
Quaresma will be a great player but he’s very young and inexperienced. You can expect him to win matches
After saying this, I agree that the coach should be able to deal with that and should be brave enough to leave some “Stars” on the bench if it was necessary and that is something that none of the coaches you mentioned has been able to do.
Serra Ferrer maybe needed more time, but although now we don’t remerber, i’m sure you were really pissed off with him 4 years ago.
Reixach, he’s a lazy man. For anyone who speaks spanish I would call him “un vividor”. I don’t know how to say it in English. He never get nervous or worried about anything. Everything id going easy for him. He was very critizised as well.
Van Gaal, biggest mistake in a long time.
Antic, he just got this team where it was supposed to be. The problem was the poor results that the team had had with van Gaal. I don’t think that end the season in the 6th place can be considered a good place for Barcelona. So let’s forget antic. He did a a correct job, the job why he was hired for, and that’s all. Thanks and farewell. Don’t forget his awfull tactics against Juve in CL.
Probably the problem is not only one. The problem is that most of the players need to be changed, and we need a more experienced coach.
And supporters should also change a bit our mentaliy…
By the way I don’t think Barça has a better team than in previous years. Maybe than last year but no more. I think our squad is the worst we’ve ever had. That’s why we have, at least, 3 teams that are much better than us. Real Madrid, Deportivo and Valencia. This is something that had never happened until these last few years with this group of payers.
Barça should get Lazio's coach, Roberto Mancini. That guy is class IMO. And they need to stop putting their best players on the bench, it sounds like every coach being good or not when he gets to Barcelona he thinks he's a superstar or something. Then he starts to go against everything people tells him, and he starts to bench everyone as he pleases. It looks like a syndrome or something like that. If you remember Van Gaal, it was the same thing, he screwed up with Rivaldo, benched Saviola, Riquelme and Mendieta. God, what the hell is up with these Dutch guys?
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WHY VALDES IS A BAD KEEPER??????? I can understand people who speaks only for the names. Rustu has most popularity for the world cup but Víctor Valdés is great in my opinion and he made a great job in the goal. That's the mistake of the media. The first time since Zubizarreta the goalkeeper isn't the guilty, but the pressure of the media for that "big name" is big. Barça don't win games for the World Cup. Also Valdés is the future of Barça. He will be a GREAT goalkeeper. I think he is a great goalkeeper now. Rustu or Valdés is not the problem of Barça. Also he is non-ue player and if he plays, Saviola or Marquez should be in the bench. I don't know why Barça need a non-ue keeper when they have a GREAT player. The problem is only that, Valdés didn't play the World Cup, and is a home player. GREAT MISTAKE TO BE HOME PLAYER.
Example of Barça problem: Cesc, he was playing for Barça C or D or I don't know, and now he is playing in Arsenal. Barça have Iniesta, who is 10 times better, and he is in the bench, in a team worst than Arsenal. Why? Iniesta is a home player. Quaresma is better, why? he is portuguese.
The same problem for Valdés, Oscar López or Navarro who are not playing(I think they are better than Van Bronkhorst) and Sergio García. Barça doesn't have a striker but Sergio García is scoring goals for the Barça B or going with the first team but without opportunities.
If you like Overmars more than any other player is because you only watch the flashes of the matches.
Barça have great young players and they are in the bench. Players wanted for much teams of Liga and others. If Iniesta was Argentinian(for example) now would be 100 big teams back him offering much money. 19 years old, the leader of Spain U-20, that team of the final of the last World Cup U-20. He placed to Riquelme to the bench last year. Yeah, Riquelme, that player who did NOTHING and I don't know why the people still want him, but Riquelme is Argentinian, isn't he?.
I agree with panxoman in that, we are full seeing the same players of lasts years playing and losing again. Players who are living the life with the salary that Barça gives them. Barça need new faces and a winner mentality.
By the way, to say that Quaresma is in the lineup usually
Example of Barça problem: Cesc, he was playing for Barça C or D or I don't know, and now he is playing in Arsenal. Barça have Iniesta, who is 10 times better, and he is in the bench, in a team worst than Arsenal. Why? Iniesta is a home player. Quaresma is better, why? he is portuguese.
The same problem for Valdés, Oscar López or Navarro who are not playing(I think they are better than Van Bronkhorst) and Sergio García. Barça doesn't have a striker but Sergio García is scoring goals for the Barça B or going with the first team but without opportunities.
If you like Overmars more than any other player is because you only watch the flashes of the matches.
Barça have great young players and they are in the bench. Players wanted for much teams of Liga and others. If Iniesta was Argentinian(for example) now would be 100 big teams back him offering much money. 19 years old, the leader of Spain U-20, that team of the final of the last World Cup U-20. He placed to Riquelme to the bench last year. Yeah, Riquelme, that player who did NOTHING and I don't know why the people still want him, but Riquelme is Argentinian, isn't he?.
I agree with panxoman in that, we are full seeing the same players of lasts years playing and losing again. Players who are living the life with the salary that Barça gives them. Barça need new faces and a winner mentality.
By the way, to say that Quaresma is in the lineup usually
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the last poll of sport.es
¿Qué extracomunitario dejaría en el banquillo ante el Rácing?
Rustu ( 372 ) 54%
Márquez ( 147 ) 21%
Ronaldinho ( 34 ) 5%
Saviola ( 139 ) 20%
Respuestas: 692
What non-ue player would you place in the bench the next match? I voted for Rustu
¿Qué extracomunitario dejaría en el banquillo ante el Rácing?
Rustu ( 372 ) 54%
Márquez ( 147 ) 21%
Ronaldinho ( 34 ) 5%
Saviola ( 139 ) 20%
Respuestas: 692
What non-ue player would you place in the bench the next match? I voted for Rustu
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Yes he does, but he helps to all and he makes almost everything.
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Yes he was RB. He can play in every sides. In the NT he is LB(is not his best side). He began playing in the RB.
Gabri is a mid adapted, is good attacking but not very good defending, as Cocu and Van Bronkhorst.
Gabri is a mid adapted, is good attacking but not very good defending, as Cocu and Van Bronkhorst.
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