The thing is, players have to realize they're employees. Looks like he's a key player to Bayern's plans, and they're making an example out of him for other guys. Ballack only left because he didnt want to sign a new contract. If he had one, i pretty much doubt Bayern would release him aswell.
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The Official Manchester United Thread [2006/2007]
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goal_machine84
Senior Squad
well lets just wait for the drama to unfold 
It's not about Owen or the money, it's about the principle not to become a selling club.ladylover said:
"Bayern Munich will never be taken for a ride by big clubs and become weak at the knees as soon as a certain level of money is mentioned. If you gain that sort of reputation, then it is all over for you."
So, let's say Bayern let him go and the team has a crap season due that depleted midfield. Then all of a sudden the real cornerstones (Lucio, Lahm, Sagnol etc.) may want out although they have long term contracts. Owen would have shown them they can get their wishes if they try hard enough.
Last year Essien declared that he would go on strike against Lyon because they didn't want to transfer him to Chelsea. Then they agreed on a transfer fee. What happened during the Diarra to Madrid saga? The club declares he's not for sale. Then he threatened to go on strike and, well it worked for Essien, they gave in.
That's behind all the "he's the future of the club" ****. I hope you got my point.
Jaouadinho
Senior Squad
thats exactly what happend with lyon and real madrid they said the same kind of things, and we all know what happend at the end.
untouchable
Senior Squad
Unless Hargreaves is a complete wussy, he aint gonna let this slide. "He better keep his mouth shut or face the consequences" HAHA gimme a break, who does he think he is? Gotti? Hargreaves wants to move, and believe me, he will be moving, if not soon, then later.
Maichal1616
Youth Team
Hendrik said:
You can do all that and have an unhappy player in your squad, knowing he won't perform anyway. Then you can drop him for more games for 'disciplinary reasons' and have his morale go down even further. Resulting in him wanting out even more. You will have this crap season with or without him in the squad. Now you have yourself a player with high wages you cannot sell (because there is no more interest in a player who doesn't perform) or use. This is actually the most likely outcome, especially if you're actually going to use that 'talk when talked to' strategy with him. As you're used to have the divine right to buy every half decent player that shows any talent in Bundesliga, you have to accept that sometimes your players want to move up as well.
Hopeunited
Starting XI
Vince is right, but unfortunately in modern football, players win on these occasions more than clubs do. :boohoo:
Hendrik said:
This will only push players away from your club, what if Real Madrid one day comes in for Lucio, do you think that he would swallow all this crap about not becoming a selling club, hell no, he would do anything to get a move to Madrid, this tactic will only make your players unhappy, you're lucky that this is about Hargreaves, because I don't think that he is the type of player to force a transfer, but I am sure that he would be happier with a transfer to OT then staying in Munich
Andrejs said:
I don't think the strongest team is always the one who does well in the Champions' League, just look at the teams that won or got to the final stages in the past few years (barring Barcelona and Milan) Porto, Monaco, Liverpool, Arsenal, Villareal were not considered "favourites" for the CL (in fact Liverpool were considered underdogs) and yet there they were. It's down to performance and not strength. Not in the same way that squad depth comes into play for a league season anyway. Just look at Real Madrid, Juventus and ourselves records (and Chelsea) recently. Also I think luck plays a part, there are really too many variables that dictates who wins the European Cup since the group format came into play.
In short, if United play at their best all through the European campaign I believe we could go a long way - and with a bit of luck in the right places even the final four or higher. The squad at maximum form is strong enough to challenge for honours here and abroad. Obviously though we don't know what's going to transpire between now and May. I would of course welcome top class players into the club, it's always better to be stronger, and I might admit I'm a bit dissapointed in the transfer activity (or lack thereof) Carrick is a good signing and I like Tomaz Kuzczak (sp) but I'd feel happier with another midfielder and perhaps a striker added.
Mike
He doesn't make much, he was a bench player when he extended a few months ago. He needs playing to remain in the English nt so he has to play well not to destroy his career. Bayern can allow having such a player until 2010 without playing him.Maichal1616 said:
The difference is those clubs in most cases need the money and so have to sell, Bayern can turn down the offer.
Up? He wants to move home and he has every right to do that in 2010.
There's no doubt in my mind that he will give 100% for Bayern after September 1st and Bayern think the same.ladylover said:
Our reserves did well today, Smith had a good match, the score was 7-2 against Preston
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1434336,00.html
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1434336,00.html
Maichal1616
Youth Team
Hendrik said:
No he won't if your club will continue to act like a bunch of hardmen, telling him to shut it if he voices his opinion or dropping him from your squad for disciplinary reasons when he says he'd like to move.
Hendrik said:
But why would you want to? If you don't need him to play, you could surely use the £17 m to buy a few players you do need?
Hendrik said:
But why would you turn it down? You'll never get a matching offer for him again. And you're basically implying it yourself that OH is dispensable. You can't be that rich to turn down an offer which is basically twice the players actual market value. Seriously, it would be a good bit of business for Bayern. And for us as well, because we desperately need that type of player
Hendrik said:
Actually his home is probably in Canada. He has never lived in England and he considers Manchester United as a move up for HIM. This is no home sickness.
We wouldn't get a single player we want two weeks before the transfer deadline:Maichal1616 said:
Van der Vaart - cup-tied, Ribery - €20M bid rejected etc.
so we have to stick with Hargreaves as some kind of deep playmaker.
His family is located close to Manchester and an Englishman wants to play in England.
We're going round in cirlces, eh?
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