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[INFESTA]

funny that even so Benfica had 3 clear goal chances in the first half, and only Helton prevented Benfica from scoring at least one before half time.

In the 2nd half Porto had ZERO goal chances until the 91st minute.

Yeah, we didn't do well in the 2nd half, I said it. If I remember correctly, Benfica had 1 chance before Anderson's injury, while we had more than 5 good chances during the same period.

the ones that said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4dRoP9qtw this was fair, dont be hypocrit c*nts now. It's a similar play.

Katsouranis went for the ball, with a stricter ref he probably would have seen a yellow for dangerous play but it definitely wasn't a tackle "à Petit", it's debatable but Katsou had no intention of injuring him.

Is this a joke?? Similar play!? I see nothing similar, apart from the fact they were both tackles on talented young players.

Unlike that play, Katsouranis also hit the leg. Actually, he mostly hit the leg, as his foot touched the ball but his body was bent on Anderson's right leg.
Another huge difference was the violence and strength involved; notice how Kat had greater momentum going for the tackle. Paulo and Wayne are sprinting in the same direction (which makes for a small relative speed), whereas Katsouranis sprinted towards Anderson and hit him hard.

Like I said earlier, Benfica knew the kid had been injured all week, and that tackle was way harsher than it needed to be. It seemed they wanted to, AT THE VERY LEAST, intimidate Anderson.
No, I don't think Katsouranis meant to sideline Anderson for 3 months, but it is my opinion he was set to take him out of the game one way or the other.

As a result, our league lost arguably its best player so far, and we lost our most influential force. There's no way of denying it: we're one team with Anderson and a weaker version without him.
This is a total transvestite, I feel like we've been cheated.

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Btw, I had to leave this here: the play where Anderson did the magic 'toque de letra' on Luisão to Quaresma, only to have him center the ball with another 'toque de letra' was simply one of the most amazing, kickass, rock n' roll plays I've seen in our league. Phenomenal!

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SP. BRAGA-MARÍTIMO, 1-4 (Césinha 84'; Gregory 4', Mbesuma 24',Marcinho 54', Alex 57')

 

[Virgo]

Is this a joke?? Similar play!? I see nothing similar, apart from the fact they were both tackles on talented young players.

Ferreira accidentally touches his leg with the knee from behind and that's what caused the injury.

If Katsouranis hadn't went in the play so hardly he couldn't have cleared the ball because Anderson is younger and faster and wouldn't be there already. Even so he got there a parseconds late and that's what caused the injury, but he went for the ball only, it was just a risky tackle as it proved to be. Very difficult to say if he touched the ball first, but it definitely was no aggression, there are much more effective ways to take a player out of the game than this kind of tackle.


Hey everyone here feels like they've been cheated with Miccoli's sending off (who would've made all the difference in the type of game that was played), not to mention that so unfair 3rd goal, that felt like a giant kick in the balls, so, get used to it


Oh and imagine how we felt in the nineties when JVP had his nose pushed in, in every porto - benfica game and the ref never saw it. You guys are spoiled.

 

[JuventusForever]

Quaresma's goal

 

[Virgo]

Quaresma's goal

you mean cross?

 

[K3nzo]

Sure... he meant to cross it! u rule!

GREAT GOAL!!!!

Why u try to forgive Kats play over Anderson? Wasnt that harsh? U keep sayn he played the ball, and i dont doubt that he tried, but the hit him hard, and hit him first!

His knee is already hiting Anderson and his other leg is nowhere near the ball! The play it's too quick for the ref to see so muck detail, but couldnt he see the foul? Not a single yellow card? Imagine it over Simao... it may hurt a little bit! Dont say the kid has glass feet! Check the play over and over and see how volent it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tpfnZ4RPw&eurl=

Comparing that with that ManU-Chelsea...

I dont say he tried to put him out, but sayin that's just normal...

Fortunatly Ibson is gettin back, but the team wont be so good as if Anderson was there!

 

[Parasol]

while watching it live i thought anderson could be injured by the way his knee hit the ground, and i had to see that youtube replay for about 5 times to see where was he really hitted, on the right leg, it must had been painful, but Katsouranis went for the ball, and, as a matter of fact, touched the ball. We see this kind of tackle happening every day, just Anderson was unlucky, or maybe too naîve that didn't protected himself against the tackle.

 

[SCP19O6]

 

[Virgo]

the only thing I know for sure is that no one would be talking about that tackle if Anderson hadn't gotten injured. I recall Fucile throwing in a nasty tackle as well that didn't even get near the ball and that wasn't even mentioned, and tackles like this happen in every game in our league, yes there's a chance they might cause an injury but they usually don't, the fact is that this one caused an injury on Porto's best player, though luck, you had a lot of it in the game itself so deal with it now. I dont even need to mention the english or scottish leagues where that would be considered a pussy tackle.

yeah if he indeed touched the player first it's a foul and a yellow card, but that would be it. And it did seem a though but fair tackle at first, second and third glance, imagine the ref.

To think the injury was on purpose is just insane and to ask Katsouranis to be banned until Anderson comes back is a good joke

 

[#71]

Well, this is just laughable.. Specially coming from FCP, isn't your style recalled from being 'raçudos'..I remember Lixa from Guimarães ( a promissing player at that time) having his career ruined by a Porto's player foul, Deco injuring Petit...Paulinho Santos, Jorge Costa, Jaime Maghães, Bandeirinha...
Sure it was a tough challenge but Katsouranis clearly went for the ball... Anderson was unlucky and I feel sorry for him, because he's such a talented guy and these 3 months would be very important for him (considering all the CL matches..). Fucile had a similar foul on Assis..that happens every match. Nuno Gomes was in his best form for years last season and he got injuried by a Belenenses player, just like this one. He first touched the ball, then the player and the penalty was not allowed. Nuno Gomes couldn't play the CL quarter finals against Barcelona..and the rest of the season, wasting the chance to be the SuperLiga goalscorer for the first time. This happens all the time...all this whining is just.....

 

[MaSsiVe]

you mean cross?

I hope that was a joke dude.

 

[Virgo]

I hope that was a joke dude.

wasn't expecting you to agree.

 

[MaSsiVe]

me or anyone who's not a benfiquista

 

[INFESTA]

Anderson was unlucky, or maybe too naîve that didn't protected himself against the tackle.

Kat came flying from 5 o'clock. How could he see it coming with enough anticipation to protect himself?


I can't see how someone can consider that Katsouranis tackle 'normal'. But hey, at least we know you're okay if something like that happens to your best players.
Also, all people saying we shouldn't complain because some of our players may have injured other players in the past should stay away from law school.


SCP19O6: I laughed at that, but don't forget whose club has an ex-president in jail (now for another 7-year stint...).

 

[INFESTA]

I hope that was a joke dude.

Funny, because Quaresma tried a similar 'cross' just a few minutes before his goal.

 

[RuiCosta_10]

This Katsouranis/Anderson thing is getting more and more pathetic,

so porto wants to stop Kat from playing until Anderson get's good, congratulations, you just reached a new level of stupidity

btw, since you are all picking a ******* stupid thing that happens sh*tloads of times, like Virgo said, fucile tackle on Nuno Assis was at the same level (except Kat actually touched the ball), let me pick on stupid sh*t also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wHY0UKtPQc

here, you football lovers and apreciators, what do you have to say about fucile's throw-in?

btw, one more thing, isn't a bit strange that considering anderson broke his perónio ou o caralho, your medical staff couldn't detected it? If they did, why did they tried to put him playing a few more minutes, i know they probably used the "spray milagroso", but couldn't that be the reason for an increase of his injury time? i believe i even saw him jumping at the end of the game (i may be wrong though),

can't you get over it?

it was a great game, no Benfica fan complained about anything(except bad luck), but you guys just had to come up with something,

if you can't show any class at all when you lose, show some when you win

 

[MaSsiVe]

Rui the question is, can't YOU get over it?
I thought you agreed this was pointless.

 

[#71]

here, you football lovers and apreciators, what do you have to say about fucile's throw-in?

É o chamado 'lançamento na passada'. Também tinha reparado, mas estas só são comentadas quando ocorrem com o Benfica, isso já se sabe.

Anyway, we didn't lost because of that, it was a throw in..I still think we were very unlucky on this match. A draw would be fair to both teams since Porto dominated on the first half and on the 2nd half Benfica was the better team. Congrats to Porto...they survived these two last matches (with a little bit of luck) but it can well be a boost of confidence for the rest of the season. Let's see how they manage without Anderson... And good luck for Hamburg, key match, but I think you have a big chance of winning it...
Benfica on the other side, I still think we have a strong possibility of winning the title..I believe Benfica will not lose many points on the smaller games, we have plenty of players that can make a difference even if the team isn't playing well as a whole. Nevertheless I'm quite surprised with the attacking moves we achieved so far, at the pre season it looked like those guys have never played together..We just need to get our defence 'back'.

 

[K3nzo]

This Katsouranis/Anderson thing is getting more and more pathetic,

so porto wants to stop Kat from playing until Anderson get's good, congratulations, you just reached a new level of stupidity

btw, since you are all picking a ******* stupid thing that happens sh*tloads of times, like Virgo said, fucile tackle on Nuno Assis was at the same level (except Kat actually touched the ball), let me pick on stupid sh*t also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wHY0UKtPQc

here, you football lovers and apreciators, what do you have to say about fucile's throw-in?


btw, one more thing, isn't a bit strange that considering anderson broke his perónio ou o caralho, your medical staff couldn't detected it? If they did, why did they tried to put him playing a few more minutes, i know they probably used the "spray milagroso", but couldn't that be the reason for an increase of his injury time? i believe i even saw him jumping at the end of the game (i may be wrong though),

can't you get over it?

it was a great game, no Benfica fan complained about anything(except bad luck), but you guys just had to come up with something,

if you can't show any class at all when you lose, show some when you win

Rui why r u loosing ur temper? Take it men! u r better than that!

1) did i mention i wanted Kats out? i just said it wasnt a normal, it's dangerous one as you can see now!

2) why u call me stupid? the last 2 weeks, as a portista i been called stupid, half-brained... what's up with u guys? did i insult any of u? if so i'm sorry!

3) u come woth the he touched the ball argument, forget that! that's nopt an argument! He can brake someone skull has long as he touchs the ball that's ok!

4) if Fucile did that (i truly didnt see the whole game, just some highlights, and today a bit of game)that's wrong too! luckly Nuno Assis kept playin and didnt weakend ur team!

5)About Fucile throw in, to be honest the first comment i made when i saw it was asking wether he was inside the field already or not! But rather than that i see nothing wrong, he sure can run while throwing the ball! if he did it inside the box, blame the assistant ref that was side-by-side with him! And Leo that decided to fake an injury and was out side the field being "assisted"!

6) If Anderson got back was becuase they sure didnt detected an exposed bone!! Anderson probably was hurging to get in and said he was ok! They took his opinion and waited! Too bad he's out for 3 months! And as an expert on medical care can u comment Rui Costa injury and why didnt he come back fully yet?

8) Anderson did partyed at the end but you can see him jumping on just one foot, and that he leaves field one footed and over Ricardo Costa shoulders!

7) where's the class on Beiga acts? Besides complaining Anderson injury nodoby complained about anything! Besides most of us agrred that Benfica deserved the tie on second half such was FCPorto passive act and Benfica come back! On the other hand, benfica fans only say that on second half they were better! Fair enough and true! but how can u imagine the game if Anderson wasnt out so soon and FCPorto kept playin like that? Humiliation was close!

 

[RuiCosta_10]

1) did i mention i wanted Kats out? i just said it wasnt a normal, it's dangerous one as you can see now!

it wasn't directed at you mate, it was mainly directed at porto's direction, at least that's what i heard on TV.

2) why u call me stupid? the last 2 weeks, as a portista i been called stupid, half-brained... what's up with u guys? did i insult any of u? if so i'm sorry!

again, it wasn't directed at you

3) u come woth the he touched the ball argument, forget that! that's nopt an argument! He can brake someone skull has long as he touchs the ball that's ok!

i agree with that, although i believe in this particular play you guys are over-reacting because it sure didn't looked like he wanted to injury him, it's not like he made a tackle à Petit

4) if Fucile did that (i truly didnt see the whole game, just some highlights, and today a bit of game)that's wrong too! luckly Nuno Assis kept playin and didnt weakend ur team!

yeah, it's wrong, and it should be punished IN the game, with a foul and the respective card, in this case, a yellow well shown if i can recall correctly, nothing more, nothing less.

5)About Fucile throw in, to be honest the first comment i made when i saw it was asking wether he was inside the field already or not! But rather than that i see nothing wrong, he sure can run while throwing the ball! if he did it inside the box, blame the assistant ref that was side-by-side with him! And Leo that decided to fake an injury and was out side the field being "assisted"!

i do not want to take out the credit of your victory because of this or any other case, just wanted to point out that you (in general) should stop with this mesquinhice

6) If Anderson got back was becuase they sure didnt detected an exposed bone!! Anderson probably was hurging to get in and said he was ok! They took his opinion and waited! Too bad he's out for 3 months! And as an expert on medical care can u comment Rui Costa injury and why didnt he come back fully yet?

i still find it strange, about Rui, my answer was given already, our medical department should be murdered.

8) Anderson did partyed at the end but you can see him jumping on just one foot, and that he leaves field one footed and over Ricardo Costa shoulders!

ok

7) where's the class on Beiga acts? Besides complaining Anderson injury nodoby complained about anything! Besides most of us agrred that Benfica deserved the tie on second half such was FCPorto passive act and Benfica come back! On the other hand, benfica fans only say that on second half they were better! Fair enough and true! but how can u imagine the game if Anderson wasnt out so soon and FCPorto kept playin like that? Humiliation was close!

veiga is an ass and everybody knows it, about the possibility of us being humiliated if Anderson wasn't out injured, well, it leaves me happy that your team depends on a 18(?) years old kid.

it's the end for me, congrats for your victory,

but in May we will be partying

 

[K3nzo]

I dont like it either! But Ibson will back soon and it may balance our team a bit more!

And i believe u like it even more now that's he's out! Not that u wished him to get injured but the fact is that Benfica has more chances now!